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Post by MsElliott on Feb 2, 2015 0:39:38 GMT
How have Ralph and Jack become distanced from each other? (p.55)
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Post by lilyklunyk on Feb 3, 2015 5:41:38 GMT
Ralph and Jack don't really see eye to eye when prioritising jobs and this creates distance between the two. Jack feels as though he needs to kill pigs in order to get meat for the boys, whereas Ralph wants to build shelters for so they have some sort of protection at night. Jack leaves Ralph to build the shelters and work hard while he goes out on his own quest to kill the pig. He doesn't really want to kill pigs for the boys, but more to make up for his moment of weakness when letting the first pig go. Ralph feels as though Jack is just waisting time and this causes brief arguments.
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Post by coreym on Feb 3, 2015 6:12:53 GMT
Ralph wants to build shelters for the boys to sleep in at night for protection, and Jack just wants to hunt for pigs because he didn't catch the first one and wants to prove himself. Jack is leaving Ralph do do all the work on the shelters while going off into the forest to get pigs, but is coming back with nothing. This is making Ralph angry and causing distance between the two.
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Post by isabelleewert on Feb 3, 2015 7:34:43 GMT
Ralph and Jack don't really see eye to eye when prioritising jobs and this creates distance between the two. Jack feels as though he needs to kill pigs in order to get meat for the boys, whereas Ralph wants to build shelters for so they have some sort of protection at night. Jack leaves Ralph to build the shelters and work hard while he goes out on his own quest to kill the pig. He doesn't really want to kill pigs for the boys, but more to make up for his moment of weakness when letting the first pig go. Ralph feels as though Jack is just waisting time and this causes brief arguments. I think that in both cases each of the boys are correct in what they are doing, Jack is right saying they need meat and Ralph is right when he says they need to build shelters. They need to work together rather than become further apart if they are going to be able to survive living on the island. |
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Post by mattsmart on Feb 3, 2015 7:57:29 GMT
Ralph and jack become distant because they don't have the same jobs that they believe is needed to be done, Ralph wants to build shellter for the boys so they have shelter at night but Jack wants to go out and kill pigs. Jack leaves to go and kill the pigs.
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Post by remimckenzie on Feb 3, 2015 8:02:11 GMT
How have Ralph and Jack become distanced from each other? (p.55) Ralph and Jack, both being very dominant, have stopped seeing each other's views and started to have little arguments over a few things. A recent argument was based on how Ralph builds the shelters to help keep everyone safe but seems to be the only one doing it, apart from Simon. Whereas Jack keeps going to kill the pigs so they boys can have food to eat. Ralph feels as if he needs more help in building the shelters and thinks that Jack's attempts to kill pigs are a waste of time. |
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Post by lilyklunyk on Feb 3, 2015 8:29:16 GMT
Ralph and Jack don't really see eye to eye when prioritising jobs and this creates distance between the two. Jack feels as though he needs to kill pigs in order to get meat for the boys, whereas Ralph wants to build shelters for so they have some sort of protection at night. Jack leaves Ralph to build the shelters and work hard while he goes out on his own quest to kill the pig. He doesn't really want to kill pigs for the boys, but more to make up for his moment of weakness when letting the first pig go. Ralph feels as though Jack is just waisting time and this causes brief arguments. I think that in both cases each of the boys are correct in what they are doing, Jack is right saying they need meat and Ralph is right when he says they need to build shelters. They need to work together rather than become further apart if they are going to be able to survive living on the island. I agree with what you are saying about them needing to work together. I don't think this will happen until Jack feels as though he has redeemed himself by killing a pig, no matter how long it takes. |
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Post by remimckenzie on Feb 3, 2015 8:32:41 GMT
Ralph and Jack don't really see eye to eye when prioritising jobs and this creates distance between the two. Jack feels as though he needs to kill pigs in order to get meat for the boys, whereas Ralph wants to build shelters for so they have some sort of protection at night. Jack leaves Ralph to build the shelters and work hard while he goes out on his own quest to kill the pig. He doesn't really want to kill pigs for the boys, but more to make up for his moment of weakness when letting the first pig go. Ralph feels as though Jack is just waisting time and this causes brief arguments. I think that in both cases each of the boys are correct in what they are doing, Jack is right saying they need meat and Ralph is right when he says they need to build shelters. They need to work together rather than become further apart if they are going to be able to survive living on the island. I agree with what you are saying. Although they both need a bit of help, they still both need to be done. I believe food is pretty important and something they need even if Jack is doing it for his own good. |
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Post by coreym on Feb 3, 2015 9:21:40 GMT
Ralph and jack become distant because they don't have the same jobs that they believe is needed to be done, Ralph wants to build shellter for the boys so they have shelter at night but Jack wants to go out and kill pigs. Jack leaves to go and kill the pigs. I think that they are both doing the right thing, but for everything to function properly on the island they need help from the other boys who are just swimming and having a good time. |
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Post by zoewatson on Feb 3, 2015 9:24:36 GMT
Ralph and Jack don't really see eye to eye when prioritising jobs and this creates distance between the two. Jack feels as though he needs to kill pigs in order to get meat for the boys, whereas Ralph wants to build shelters for so they have some sort of protection at night. Jack leaves Ralph to build the shelters and work hard while he goes out on his own quest to kill the pig. He doesn't really want to kill pigs for the boys, but more to make up for his moment of weakness when letting the first pig go. Ralph feels as though Jack is just waisting time and this causes brief arguments. It is quite clear that the two like to approach tasks differently. Ralph seems to be prioritising the other boys while Jack is only worried about his quest to kill a pig. The fact that Jack only wants to hunt has definitely added tension between himself and Ralph, which is making them drift apart. |
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Post by Hope15 on Feb 3, 2015 9:44:53 GMT
Ralph and Jack don't really see eye to eye when prioritising jobs and this creates distance between the two. Jack feels as though he needs to kill pigs in order to get meat for the boys, whereas Ralph wants to build shelters for so they have some sort of protection at night. Jack leaves Ralph to build the shelters and work hard while he goes out on his own quest to kill the pig. He doesn't really want to kill pigs for the boys, but more to make up for his moment of weakness when letting the first pig go. Ralph feels as though Jack is just waisting time and this causes brief arguments. I like the way you worded your answer. I agree that they don't see eye to eye and I think that each of them are very wary of the other. Even though Ralph is the elected leader, Jack still holds a lot of authority within the group and this makes him a potential threat to Ralph. Their ideas and priorities clash and this causes a tear in their relationship. |
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Post by laurah on Feb 3, 2015 10:03:32 GMT
How have Ralph and Jack become distanced from each other? (p.55) Ralph and Jack have different views on what's best for the boys, creating distance between one another. Ralph wants to build shelter, but Jack believes getting meat is the most important task. The difference is that Jack is only hunting because he enjoys it, whereas Ralph is building huts because he believes it will benefit the camp most, despite hating the task. 'They walked along, two continents of experience and feeling, unable to communicate'. |
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Post by elisegrant on Feb 3, 2015 10:22:45 GMT
Ralph and jack become distant because they don't have the same jobs that they believe is needed to be done, Ralph wants to build shellter for the boys so they have shelter at night but Jack wants to go out and kill pigs. Jack leaves to go and kill the pigs. I think that they are both doing the right thing, but for everything to function properly on the island they need help from the other boys who are just swimming and having a good time. I think your both right but I think Jack and Ralph need to step up and be better leaders by making a plans to what they need to get done and also get the other boys more involved and have more of an influence on their decision making. |
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Post by zoebia on Feb 3, 2015 10:35:18 GMT
How have Ralph and Jack become distanced from each other? (p.55) The two are being distanced from each other as they start having different opinions. Ralph wants to build shelters for the boys to have somewhere to sleep at night with proper protection, where as Jack wanted to hunt the pigs for food. This creates a split between the two boys. |
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Post by emah on Feb 3, 2015 11:30:34 GMT
How have Ralph and Jack become distanced from each other? (p.55) The boys are both focusing on different needs, but can't join their ideas to work in unison. With the added stress to both boys, it is more difficult for them to make good decisions. Because of their continuous workload, it distances them to be able to work better. Without the children's help as well, they have to be focusing on surviving more than ever, which stops them being an average human from England. |
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