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Post by MsElliott on Feb 11, 2015 9:58:57 GMT
What disturbing thing do the group of hunters and Ralph do immediately after their encounter with the pig? How is Ralph's behavior surprising? What does this behavior foreshadow?
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Post by lindadate on Feb 17, 2015 6:51:26 GMT
After the group of hunters and Ralph encounter the pig, they pretend that Robert is the pig and jab at him with their spears. They chant "Kill the pig! Cut his throat! Kill the pig! Bash him in!". Even Ralph was fighting to get near, the desire to hunt taking control of his actions. Poor Robert is actually in pain and shouts for them to stop, and after a while they do, leaving him on the ground. This event shows that even Ralph is starting to become primitive and savage, and possibly hints that he too will eventually become like Jack and the hunters as the story progresses.
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Post by isabelleewert on Feb 17, 2015 9:23:22 GMT
What disturbing thing do the group of hunters and Ralph do immediately after their encounter with the pig? How is Ralph's behavior surprising? What does this behavior foreshadow? Immediately after Ralph 'saved the day' by striking the boar on the noise with a spear the boys create a circle around Robert and poked and jabbed him with spears causing him to cry out in real pain. Afterwards the boys all comment that it was a good game and joked they could use a littleun to kill next time! Ralph is very involved and was fighting to get near Robert and jab him so we are beginning to see Ralph become more primitive and savage and could give an incite as to how his character will progress over the rest of the book. Just previously, Ralph had been fighting against the other boys in regard to the castle so his involvement with the pig is a major change very quickly. |
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Post by isabelleewert on Feb 17, 2015 9:41:02 GMT
After the group of hunters and Ralph encounter the pig, they pretend that Robert is the pig and jab at him with their spears. They chant "Kill the pig! Cut his throat! Kill the pig! Bash him in!". Even Ralph was fighting to get near, the desire to hunt taking control of his actions. Poor Robert is actually in pain and shouts for them to stop, and after a while they do, leaving him on the ground. This event shows that even Ralph is starting to become primitive and savage, and possibly hints that he too will eventually become like Jack and the hunters as the story progresses. The fact that Ralph could become more like Jack and the hunters would not be a good thing for the overall chance of the boys being rescued. |
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Post by emah on Feb 17, 2015 10:04:52 GMT
What disturbing thing do the group of hunters and Ralph do immediately after their encounter with the pig? How is Ralph's behavior surprising? What does this behavior foreshadow? Immediately after Ralph 'saved the day' by striking the boar on the noise with a spear the boys create a circle around Robert and poked and jabbed him with spears causing him to cry out in real pain. Afterwards the boys all comment that it was a good game and joked they could use a littleun to kill next time! Ralph is very involved and was fighting to get near Robert and jab him so we are beginning to see Ralph become more primitive and savage and could give an incite as to how his character will progress over the rest of the book. Just previously, Ralph had been fighting against the other boys in regard to the castle so his involvement with the pig is a major change very quickly. As Ralph is losing himself to become more wild and primitive, his leadership qualities could turn savage with no sense of order. If this happens, they would not have much chance for rescue unless another boy takes his place. Because Robert was the victim of the reenactment, he may be less swept up by the hunting and be able to keep more of what society taught him. He may be able to save the next boy who acts as the pig. |
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Post by zoewatson on Feb 17, 2015 10:12:43 GMT
What disturbing thing do the group of hunters and Ralph do immediately after their encounter with the pig? How is Ralph's behavior surprising? What does this behavior foreshadow? Ralph manages to injure a wild boar, everybody starts messing around and celebrating. They are also acting out what happened. Ralph is surprisingly acting like the hunters. This comes as a shock because Ralph is usually against the hunters excitement but now he his is experiencing the thrill and loves it. |
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Post by emilyhadzalic on Feb 17, 2015 10:26:56 GMT
What disturbing thing do the group of hunters and Ralph do immediately after their encounter with the pig? How is Ralph's behavior surprising? What does this behavior foreshadow? The hunters and Ralph immediately try to hunt the pig as soon as they encounter it. Ralph's behaviour is surprising because he's finally joining Jack and trying to kill something. His behaviour could foreshadow that he could become corrupted and savage like Jack. |
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Post by coreym on Feb 17, 2015 10:45:45 GMT
After the group of hunters and Ralph encounter the pig, they pretend that Robert is the pig and jab at him with their spears. They chant "Kill the pig! Cut his throat! Kill the pig! Bash him in!". Even Ralph was fighting to get near, the desire to hunt taking control of his actions. Poor Robert is actually in pain and shouts for them to stop, and after a while they do, leaving him on the ground. This event shows that even Ralph is starting to become primitive and savage, and possibly hints that he too will eventually become like Jack and the hunters as the story progresses. That is a good point that I had not considered about Ralph becoming more like Jack. If he does they will never become rescued and all the boys on the island will be wiped out. |
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Post by zoel on Feb 17, 2015 10:47:55 GMT
After the group of hunters and Ralph encounter the pig, they pretend that Robert is the pig and jab at him with their spears. They chant "Kill the pig! Cut his throat! Kill the pig! Bash him in!". Even Ralph was fighting to get near, the desire to hunt taking control of his actions. Poor Robert is actually in pain and shouts for them to stop, and after a while they do, leaving him on the ground. This event shows that even Ralph is starting to become primitive and savage, and possibly hints that he too will eventually become like Jack and the hunters as the story progresses. The fact that Ralph could become more like Jack and the hunters would not be a good thing for the overall chance of the boys being rescued. Also at the end of the encounter, jack plainly suggests teasing, beating and killing a Littleun. This shows the growth in their savagery and their lack of comprehension towards their actions, even if it is a joke. |
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Post by remimckenzie on Feb 18, 2015 3:48:07 GMT
What disturbing thing do the group of hunters and Ralph do immediately after their encounter with the pig? How is Ralph's behavior surprising? What does this behavior foreshadow? Ralph manages to injure a wild boar, everybody starts messing around and celebrating. They are also acting out what happened. Ralph is surprisingly acting like the hunters. This comes as a shock because Ralph is usually against the hunters excitement but now he his is experiencing the thrill and loves it. You can see that Ralph is becoming more savage as the story progresses, but he still has a sense of civilisation as afterwards he did not completely agree that the game was fun, however he does say it was. |
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Post by Hope15 on Feb 18, 2015 5:18:02 GMT
What disturbing thing do the group of hunters and Ralph do immediately after their encounter with the pig? How is Ralph's behavior surprising? What does this behavior foreshadow? The disturbing event in this chapter happens afree Ralph wounds the boar with his spear. Excitement overtakes him and he participates in a dance while singing "Kill the pig! Kill the pig!" One of the boys, Robert, pretends to be the pig and all the boys jab him with their spears. This is actually painful for Robert and even after he asks them to stop, Ralph and the others continue to pick at him and laugh. This shows the dark and primitive side of Ralph and that he too can become lost in the savage and brutal ways that Jack had previously displayed. |
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Post by kayleewilliams on Feb 18, 2015 8:30:22 GMT
After the group of hunters and Ralph encounter the pig, they pretend that Robert is the pig and jab at him with their spears. They chant "Kill the pig! Cut his throat! Kill the pig! Bash him in!". Even Ralph was fighting to get near, the desire to hunt taking control of his actions. Poor Robert is actually in pain and shouts for them to stop, and after a while they do, leaving him on the ground. This event shows that even Ralph is starting to become primitive and savage, and possibly hints that he too will eventually become like Jack and the hunters as the story progresses. This is a bad sign, as if the leader of the boys becomes a savage that will increase the chances of the other boys following him and becoming savages. |
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Post by lilyklunyk on Feb 18, 2015 8:31:04 GMT
They act out circling a pig and killing it. The boys use Robert as the pig and have him screaming for mercy by the end of it. Ralph's behaviour is surprising because he didn't seem to like the idea of hunting or savagery, until he felt the rush of adrenaline after wounding the boar. This event shows that island is turning Ralph into a savage, like the hunters, and this is worrying since he may end up like Jack.
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Post by mackenzieg on Feb 18, 2015 12:03:33 GMT
After the group of hunters and Ralph encounter the pig, they pretend that Robert is the pig and jab at him with their spears. They chant "Kill the pig! Cut his throat! Kill the pig! Bash him in!". Even Ralph was fighting to get near, the desire to hunt taking control of his actions. Poor Robert is actually in pain and shouts for them to stop, and after a while they do, leaving him on the ground. This event shows that even Ralph is starting to become primitive and savage, and possibly hints that he too will eventually become like Jack and the hunters as the story progresses. I agree and I think that this section of the chapter really shows how even one of the most civilised individuals can succumb to animal instinct and pack mentality. Things can just take over and even though Ralph is the leader and should be the most learned people on the island, even the most primitive actions and basic human traits can get the better of him. |
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Post by stewarts on Feb 19, 2015 2:25:07 GMT
After the boys including Ralph encounter the pig, they begin to chant around Robert who is imitating the pig, and begin jabbing him with their spears which actually is hurting Robert. This is surprising for Ralph as you wouldn't expect him to partake in this activity, but it shows he is becoming more primitive.
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