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Post by MsElliott on Feb 11, 2015 10:02:51 GMT
Ralph has insights into Jack's character, what are they?
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Post by zoel on Feb 17, 2015 10:59:56 GMT
In this chapter you see that jack isn't as strong and tough as he makes himself out to be. In other chapters he defines himself as being fearless but in this chapter he becomes a little more hesitant and is far more willing to so something if Ralph does it also. This will give Ralph the upper hand into leading the group.
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Post by emah on Feb 17, 2015 11:02:36 GMT
Ralph has insights into Jack's character, what are they? Ralph sees a few different behaviors and feelings from Jack. He first only sees him normal, where Jack is leading on purpose with his primitive behaviour of hunting and getting carried away with reenacting the boar incident. He is a bit more savage, as he suggests using a littlun. He is still uninterested about Piggy and gets mad when Simon volunteers to go back to camp. Ralph then learns how Jack acts when he can't lead anymore. Jack questions Ralph about his courage and forcefully asks him questions. But when Ralph asks why Jack hates him, Jack cannot answer, which could mean he can't say it in front of the group because it makes him look bad. But soon Jack is pushing Ralph and making himself look tough again. At the end of the chapter, Ralph sees a big change in Jack. He is frightened and not brave anymore, as he hesitates for the first time. He becomes very cautious and values his life when he thinks he saw the beastie.
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Post by emilyhadzalic on Feb 17, 2015 20:54:24 GMT
Ralph has insights into Jack's character, what are they? Ralph sees a few different behaviors and feelings from Jack. He first only sees him normal, where Jack is leading on purpose with his primitive behaviour of hunting and getting carried away with reenacting the boar incident. He is a bit more savage, as he suggests using a littlun. He is still uninterested about Piggy and gets mad when Simon volunteers to go back to camp. Ralph then learns how Jack acts when he can't lead anymore. Jack questions Ralph about his courage and forcefully asks him questions. But when Ralph asks why Jack hates him, Jack cannot answer, which could mean he can't say it in front of the group because it makes him look bad. But soon Jack is pushing Ralph and making himself look tough again. At the end of the chapter, Ralph sees a big change in Jack. He is frightened and not brave anymore, as he hesitates for the first time. He becomes very cautious and values his life when he thinks he saw the beastie. Jack is definitely acting a bit fearful and hesitant during this chapter, but I think that he stills wants to prove how brave he is to everyone which could be the reason why he tried something dangerous like going up the mountain without Ralph.
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Post by zoewatson on Feb 17, 2015 22:31:16 GMT
Ralph has insights into Jack's character, what are they? During this chapter Jack is seen as fearful and afraid. This is new to Ralph and the others because Jack has always been the "strong" leader of the hunters, when in reality at the start if the book he was afraid and he aslo wore the paint mask to hide his fear. Even though Jake is fearful in this chapter, he still wants to prove to everyone that he is a brave and strong leader.
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Post by remimckenzie on Feb 18, 2015 3:50:48 GMT
Ralph has insights into Jack's character, what are they? During this chapter Jack is seen as fearful and afraid. This is new to Ralph and the others because Jack has always been the "strong" leader of the hunters, when in reality at the start if the book he was afraid and he aslo wore the paint mask to hide his fear. Even though Jake is fearful in this chapter, he still wants to prove to everyone that he is a brave and strong leader. I think that Jack finds it hard to come to terms with the fact that he is still just a boy and Jack really just wants to feel grown up. Therefore, he attempts things that try and prove he a stronger than he thinks, but it is questionable whether he really thinks he could do it himself.
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Post by Hope15 on Feb 18, 2015 5:13:03 GMT
Ralph has insights into Jack's character, what are they? In this chapter, we start to see Jack's softer side come out and his willingness to follow Ralph's actions. He is often represented as tough and fearless, however in this chapter we see him become hesitant and even a little afraid. He can't answer Ralph when he is asked "why do you hate me?". This is new to Ralph and may give him an advantage leading the group.
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Post by lindadate on Feb 18, 2015 7:13:52 GMT
In this chapter you see that jack isn't as strong and tough as he makes himself out to be. In other chapters he defines himself as being fearless but in this chapter he becomes a little more hesitant and is far more willing to so something if Ralph does it also. This will give Ralph the upper hand into leading the group. Another thing that makes him look not as strong and tough as he used to be is when Ralph asks him why he hates him so much, and Jack can't bring himself to reply in front of the other boys.
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Post by kayleewilliams on Feb 18, 2015 8:25:49 GMT
Ralph has insights into Jack's character, what are they? Jack is shown as less of a fearless warrior in this chapter, as he is openly hesitant to do things unless Ralph does them too.
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Post by lilyklunyk on Feb 18, 2015 8:43:14 GMT
Ralph has insights into Jack's character, what are they? Jack is shown as less of a fearless warrior in this chapter, as he is openly hesitant to do things unless Ralph does them too. He also likes to taunt Ralph by pushing the boundaries, like insisting on climbing the mountain while it's dark. Once he sees the "beast", he is full of fear and that makes Ralph very scared because he never thought that he would see Jack frightened of something.
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Post by mackenzieg on Feb 18, 2015 11:56:22 GMT
Ralph has insights into Jack's character, what are they? During this chapter Jack is seen as fearful and afraid. This is new to Ralph and the others because Jack has always been the "strong" leader of the hunters, when in reality at the start if the book he was afraid and he aslo wore the paint mask to hide his fear. Even though Jake is fearful in this chapter, he still wants to prove to everyone that he is a brave and strong leader. I agree and I think that because jack is seen doing things more willingly if Ralph does them and is seen being scared of the beast from the air, this gives Ralph a feeling of superiority between the two and may show who is really the leader.
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Post by elisegrant on Feb 19, 2015 11:23:20 GMT
Ralph has insights into Jack's character, what are they? In this chapter, we start to see Jack's softer side come out and his willingness to follow Ralph's actions. He is often represented as tough and fearless, however in this chapter we see him become hesitant and even a little afraid. He can't answer Ralph when he is asked "why do you hate me?". This is new to Ralph and may give him an advantage leading the group. In this chapter we see a little tension in the relationship Jack has with Ralph too because Jack keeps asking if he is scared or if he is too scared to come with him to find the beast. This could just be Jacks way of showing that he is scared although not admitting to it and would rather to have someone come with him incase they did see anything.
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Post by kate Fincham on Feb 22, 2015 12:37:12 GMT
Ralph has insights into Jack's character, what are they? During this chapter Jack is seen as fearful and afraid. This is new to Ralph and the others because Jack has always been the "strong" leader of the hunters, when in reality at the start if the book he was afraid and he aslo wore the paint mask to hide his fear. Even though Jake is fearful in this chapter, he still wants to prove to everyone that he is a brave and strong leader. I think Ralph may have been almost pleased at this sudden change in Jack's character as it meant he had a better chance of gaining the boy's loyalty and trust.
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Post by mattsmart on Feb 26, 2015 1:28:59 GMT
In this chapter jack is acting a little bit less tough as he used to make himself. If ralph does something jack is happy to follow what he is going to do. This gives ralph the upper hand.
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Post by allanaedgell on Mar 14, 2015 2:28:45 GMT
Ralph has insights into Jack's character, what are they? In this chapter we see Jack become more hesitant and fearful then in other chapters. Previously he has been portrayed as being strong and brave and not afraid of anything on the island. This is different for Ralph as Jack is more willing to go along with his ideas which hasn't happened as much in the past chapters.
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