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Post by stewarts on Feb 22, 2015 1:03:27 GMT
The biguns are ashamed of betraying Ralph, the boy who lead them to where they are now, they seem to have had a connection to Ralph, and abandoning him was morally wrong, but the right option in order to survive.
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Post by stewarts on Feb 22, 2015 10:25:27 GMT
Why do you think the biguns wait until the other boys are occupied to leave instead of supporting Jack's challenge during the meeting? The boys seem to be having a dispute within themselves. They respect Ralph but are unsure what to do with Jacks offer. A problem has eluded many of the boys consciences, to stay with the chief, Ralph or go with the vicious nature of jack The biguns may have all along known they would 'sign' with Jack as their survival instincts are too strong, but the boys had one last drop of morals inside of them and didn't want to humiliate Ralph. |
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Post by jemimareid on Feb 22, 2015 10:30:13 GMT
Why do you think the biguns wait until the other boys are occupied to leave instead of supporting Jack's challenge during the meeting? I think that perhaps they were frozen with shock. They truly didn't understand what was happening because it was so unexpected and they didn't want to stand up to Ralph because they still respected him as chief. I think, that even though they liked Jack better, they didn't want to openly show support because they wanted to weigh up the options first. That's what people do in real life. They flock to the people who can give them something they want. For the boys, that's hunting, meat and fun. |
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Post by jemimareid on Feb 22, 2015 10:31:28 GMT
The biguns are ashamed of betraying Ralph, the boy who lead them to where they are now, they seem to have had a connection to Ralph, and abandoning him was morally wrong, but the right option in order to survive. Exactly, I think at this stage in the book, the boys know that it is survival of the fittest, and right now, Jack is the best option for them. |
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Post by kate Fincham on Feb 22, 2015 12:54:59 GMT
The boys, from the start, we loyal to Ralph and I am sure they could see the conflicting sides of Jack and Ralph. They may not have had the courage to stand up for themselves and show everyone that they are no longer loyal to Ralph but have betrayed him by going to jack. the public show of devotion to the "other side" may have frightened the boys. I agree with this, the boys had to choose between two sides. Wild adventure with Jack or peaceful civilisation with Ralph. It would've been a hard descision and they wouldn't have been decisive enough to take off with Jack as soon as he left. |
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Post by mattsmart on Feb 26, 2015 10:43:03 GMT
The biguns are ashamed of betraying Ralph, the boy who lead them to where they are now, they seem to have had a connection to Ralph, and abandoning him was morally wrong, but the right option in order to survive. Yes and by sneaking out later it makes them feel less bad as the don't hear the reaction of ralph or of the other boys as they would be disapointed in them for joining jack. |
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Post by mackenzieg on Feb 26, 2015 13:31:55 GMT
Why do you think the biguns wait until the other boys are occupied to leave instead of supporting Jack's challenge during the meeting? I believe that the choir boys have respect for Ralph and see him as the true leader and they didn't want to upset him. They also still might feel obligated to join jacks group of hunters and so they waited until the boys were occupied as to not alarm Ralph to what they were doing. |
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