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Post by MsElliott on Feb 11, 2015 10:05:59 GMT
What unusual thing happens to Ralph after Jack leaves and after he realizes most of the biguns have left? What is the significance of his reaction?
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Post by isabelleewert on Feb 17, 2015 10:17:37 GMT
What unusual thing happens to Ralph after Jack leaves and after he realizes most of the biguns have left? What is the significance of his reaction? After Jack leaves followed by many of the biguns, Ralph feels abandoned and increasingly concerned that they won't be able to manage without them. Ralph quickly occupies himself with looking at his bleeding finger and then says that they were always making trouble and they can do without them. Ralph is almost reassuring himself as well as the remaining boys that they will be happier and can manage on there own. This is significant as Ralph initially feels very disheartened about having less biguns and despite him disapproving of Jack's ideas and ways, he feels concerned that without Jack, his sort of other half if you like, they may not be able to continue. Ralph quickly changes his mind uneasily and says they will be better on their own.
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Post by remimckenzie on Feb 18, 2015 4:28:52 GMT
What unusual thing happens to Ralph after Jack leaves and after he realizes most of the biguns have left? What is the significance of his reaction? After Jack leaves followed by many of the biguns, Ralph feels abandoned and increasingly concerned that they won't be able to manage without them. Ralph quickly occupies himself with looking at his bleeding finger and then says that they were always making trouble and they can do without them. Ralph is almost reassuring himself as well as the remaining boys that they will be happier and can manage on there own. This is significant as Ralph initially feels very disheartened about having less biguns and despite him disapproving of Jack's ideas and ways, he feels concerned that without Jack, his sort of other half if you like, they may not be able to continue. Ralph quickly changes his mind uneasily and says they will be better on their own.
I wonder if those boys will actually be able to survive without Jack and the big ones as they have no hunting skills and the little ones would be unable to hunt. Of course the boys have fruit to survive off, but how long until they crave meat to the extent where they go wild. |
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Post by Hope15 on Feb 18, 2015 5:37:27 GMT
What unusual thing happens to Ralph after Jack leaves and after he realizes most of the biguns have left? What is the significance of his reaction? When the older boys leave with Jack, Ralph is upset and concerned for himself and the other younger boys. He feels that without the older boys and Jack, he won't be able to manage. He tries to reassure himself by saying that "they were always making trouble" and "we'll be better off without them". I think Ralph feels a little betrayed as many of the boys left him even though he has done so much to try and get everyone rescued. This is significant because even if Ralph thinks that Jack's ways aren't useful, he feels lost and scared without him. |
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Post by lindadate on Feb 18, 2015 7:40:46 GMT
What unusual thing happens to Ralph after Jack leaves and after he realizes most of the biguns have left? What is the significance of his reaction? When the older boys leave with Jack, Ralph is upset and concerned for himself and the other younger boys. He feels that without the older boys and Jack, he won't be able to manage. He tries to reassure himself by saying that "they were always making trouble" and "we'll be better off without them". I think Ralph feels a little betrayed as many of the boys left him even though he has done so much to try and get everyone rescued. This is significant because even if Ralph thinks that Jack's ways aren't useful, he feels lost and scared without him. Also, Ralph is afraid of the control Jack has over the boys and he is worried that all the boys will eventually go to Jack's side and he will be left with just Piggy and Simon. |
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Post by zoewatson on Feb 18, 2015 7:41:19 GMT
What unusual thing happens to Ralph after Jack leaves and after he realizes most of the biguns have left? What is the significance of his reaction? When the older boys leave with Jack, Ralph is upset and concerned for himself and the other younger boys. He feels that without the older boys and Jack, he won't be able to manage. He tries to reassure himself by saying that "they were always making trouble" and "we'll be better off without them". I think Ralph feels a little betrayed as many of the boys left him even though he has done so much to try and get everyone rescued. This is significant because even if Ralph thinks that Jack's ways aren't useful, he feels lost and scared without him. Ralph feels as if he may not be able to cope with the stress of looking after all of the littuns without the help of the hunters and Jack. Ralph's reation to this situation kind of shows that he is responsible. This is because he is worried for the littuns and cares about everyones survival. This also shows that Ralph is much more suited to being a leader whilst Jack is not. |
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Post by emah on Feb 18, 2015 8:29:18 GMT
What unusual thing happens to Ralph after Jack leaves and after he realizes most of the biguns have left? What is the significance of his reaction? After Jack leaves followed by many of the biguns, Ralph feels abandoned and increasingly concerned that they won't be able to manage without them. Ralph quickly occupies himself with looking at his bleeding finger and then says that they were always making trouble and they can do without them. Ralph is almost reassuring himself as well as the remaining boys that they will be happier and can manage on there own. This is significant as Ralph initially feels very disheartened about having less biguns and despite him disapproving of Jack's ideas and ways, he feels concerned that without Jack, his sort of other half if you like, they may not be able to continue. Ralph quickly changes his mind uneasily and says they will be better on their own.
As Ralph is unsure of their lifestyle, Jack could take the opportunity for his advantage. With less people to look after the littleuns and protect each other, survival could become hard, letting Jack persuade them. But with Piggy and Simon supporting Ralph, the group will probably stay together with Ralph staying as a confident chief. |
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Post by kayleewilliams on Feb 18, 2015 8:34:04 GMT
What unusual thing happens to Ralph after Jack leaves and after he realizes most of the biguns have left? What is the significance of his reaction? Ralph tries to assure himself and the other boys that they are better off without the biguns, despite feeling abandoned and concerned, as he isn't sure if he can manage without them. |
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Post by lilyklunyk on Feb 18, 2015 9:54:24 GMT
Ralph feels hurt by the fact the the biguns left him, but he ends up to be more concerned about the fire. Ralph seems to be even more determined to leave the island and he thinks the fire is definitely the thing that will get the boys off of the island. He is worried that the fire will go out because there aren't enough people to keep watch now.
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Post by zoebia on Feb 18, 2015 10:22:46 GMT
Ralph feels hurt by the fact the the biguns left him, but he ends up to be more concerned about the fire. Ralph seems to be even more determined to leave the island and he thinks the fire is definitely the thing that will get the boys off of the island. He is worried that the fire will go out because there aren't enough people to keep watch now. I feel like his main concern in that fact that he might just be left with Simon and piggy and they won't be able to manage without everyone helping with the fire especially |
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Post by laurah on Feb 18, 2015 10:52:32 GMT
What unusual thing happens to Ralph after Jack leaves and after he realizes most of the biguns have left? What is the significance of his reaction? After Jack leaves followed by many of the biguns, Ralph feels abandoned and increasingly concerned that they won't be able to manage without them. Ralph quickly occupies himself with looking at his bleeding finger and then says that they were always making trouble and they can do without them. Ralph is almost reassuring himself as well as the remaining boys that they will be happier and can manage on there own. This is significant as Ralph initially feels very disheartened about having less biguns and despite him disapproving of Jack's ideas and ways, he feels concerned that without Jack, his sort of other half if you like, they may not be able to continue. Ralph quickly changes his mind uneasily and says they will be better on their own.
Ralph and Jack could almost represent Yin and Yang. Civilised society versus mankind's true primitivity. He also knows that his power is quickly transferring to Jack, whereas their leadership needs to be shared between them. |
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Post by elisegrant on Feb 19, 2015 11:55:22 GMT
What unusual thing happens to Ralph after Jack leaves and after he realizes most of the biguns have left? What is the significance of his reaction? After Jack leaves followed by many of the biguns, Ralph feels abandoned and increasingly concerned that they won't be able to manage without them. Ralph quickly occupies himself with looking at his bleeding finger and then says that they were always making trouble and they can do without them. Ralph is almost reassuring himself as well as the remaining boys that they will be happier and can manage on there own. This is significant as Ralph initially feels very disheartened about having less biguns and despite him disapproving of Jack's ideas and ways, he feels concerned that without Jack, his sort of other half if you like, they may not be able to continue. Ralph quickly changes his mind uneasily and says they will be better on their own.
Ralph is also concerned that without the other biguns, they will not be able to keep the fire alight because they won't have enough people to watch it and collect firewood. This would mean that they wouldn't get rescued because no ship would see the smoke coming from the island. |
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Post by kate Fincham on Feb 22, 2015 12:47:46 GMT
What unusual thing happens to Ralph after Jack leaves and after he realizes most of the biguns have left? What is the significance of his reaction? When the older boys leave with Jack, Ralph is upset and concerned for himself and the other younger boys. He feels that without the older boys and Jack, he won't be able to manage. He tries to reassure himself by saying that "they were always making trouble" and "we'll be better off without them". I think Ralph feels a little betrayed as many of the boys left him even though he has done so much to try and get everyone rescued. This is significant because even if Ralph thinks that Jack's ways aren't useful, he feels lost and scared without him. Ralph may alow feel scared because, with the lingering fear of the beastie, he probably was comforted by the protection of the ruthless Jack and his hunters. |
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Post by allanaedgell on Feb 23, 2015 9:15:15 GMT
What unusual thing happens to Ralph after Jack leaves and after he realizes most of the biguns have left? What is the significance of his reaction? Once Ralph realises that most of the biguns have followed Jack to his new "tribe", he feels scared and concerned. He doesn't know how the rest of the boys will survive with only the 4 biguns left. He also fears that the rest of the boys will eventually leave to join Jack as he thinks Jack has more control over them then he does. |
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Post by allanaedgell on Feb 23, 2015 9:17:36 GMT
When the older boys leave with Jack, Ralph is upset and concerned for himself and the other younger boys. He feels that without the older boys and Jack, he won't be able to manage. He tries to reassure himself by saying that "they were always making trouble" and "we'll be better off without them". I think Ralph feels a little betrayed as many of the boys left him even though he has done so much to try and get everyone rescued. This is significant because even if Ralph thinks that Jack's ways aren't useful, he feels lost and scared without him. Ralph may alow feel scared because, with the lingering fear of the beastie, he probably was comforted by the protection of the ruthless Jack and his hunters. I agree with both of you here. Ralph probably felt a lot safer with the hunters around and he would be worrying about the beast attacking the boys. I feel that you point out a good point Kate. |
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