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Post by MsElliott on Feb 11, 2015 10:06:36 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion?
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Post by Hope15 on Feb 18, 2015 5:50:17 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion? Simon suggests that the boys climb the mountain to find out if there really is a beast. The boys react with fear and even Piggy, who doesn't even believe in the beast, doesn't understand what good that will do. Simon Shen asks "What else is there to do?" This implies that the only way not to fear the beast is to face it. We then follow Simon up the mountain where he sees the brutal killing of the female pig. |
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Post by emah on Feb 18, 2015 6:30:11 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion? After the split with Jack, Simon suggests to climb the mountain. Because the beast is there, no one thinks the suggestion is helpful. But Simon is talking about actually proving that there is no beast. Then he asks, "What else is there to do?" This is not to pass the time but a way to face the beast and for Simon to tell the others there is no beast. But as the boys don't follow, they are left to stay frightened and lose resources and space of the Island. |
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Post by zoel on Feb 18, 2015 7:37:01 GMT
Simon wants the boys to climb up the mountain and face their fears. He is probably sick of the boys making decisions around the beast and would rather the boys realise there is nothing to fear than to make illogical decisions due to fear
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Post by lindadate on Feb 18, 2015 7:37:50 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion? After the split with Jack, Simon suggests to climb the mountain. Because the beast is there, no one thinks the suggestion is helpful. But Simon is talking about actually proving that there is no beast. Then he asks, "What else is there to do?" This is not to pass the time but a way to face the beast and for Simon to tell the others there is no beast. But as the boys don't follow, they are left to stay frightened and lose resources and space of the Island. Also, Simon may think that it is better to confirm that there is no beast sooner rather than later because otherwise the boys fear may get out of hand and they may resort to drastic measures. |
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Post by kayleewilliams on Feb 18, 2015 8:47:33 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion? Simon suggests climbing the mountain to see if the beastie really exists. The meaning behind what he says is, that he only way o overcome the fear of the beastie is to see if it actually exists first. |
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Post by zoewatson on Feb 18, 2015 9:12:48 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion? Simon suggests walking up the mountain to see if there really is a beastie. Simon doesn't believe in the beastie and this is a good chance for him to show the others that they are all wrong. He says that the only way to overcome the fear is to see if it actually exists. This will not only benifit the boys (they will see no beastie) but it will benifit Simon because he will no longer be trying to convince everyone that they are wrong. |
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Post by lilyklunyk on Feb 18, 2015 9:58:31 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion? Simon suggests walking up the mountain to see if there really is a beastie. Simon doesn't believe in the beastie and this is a good chance for him to show the others that they are all wrong. He says that the only way to overcome the fear is to see if it actually exists. This will not only benifit the boys (they will see no beastie) but it will benifit Simon because he will no longer be trying to convince everyone that they are wrong. I agree. Simon says that he wants to go up to the mountain because they need the fire, but he probably really wants to see that his suspicions about there being no beast are right. He wants to show the boys that there isn't anything to be afraid of. |
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Post by zoebia on Feb 18, 2015 10:04:11 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion? I think when Simon says 'what else is there to do?' he is telling the boys that if they don't face there fear they will never get over it, and that they will continue making more and more false images. If they don't follow Simons suggestion to walk up the mountin, the fear they have will never go away and only grow. |
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Post by laurah on Feb 18, 2015 11:01:59 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion? Simon suggests that the boys climb the mountain to seek the beast. He wants to do this to end the fear and brutality. But the boys are fearful, and no one agrees. Simon asks, "What else is there to do?", as he sees no other option to end the fear. However, Simon has a very different opinion of what the beast is. Not following Simon's suggestion is only feeding the beast with fear, as no one is brave enough to face it. |
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Post by laurah on Feb 18, 2015 11:03:56 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion? Simon suggests walking up the mountain to see if there really is a beastie. Simon doesn't believe in the beastie and this is a good chance for him to show the others that they are all wrong. He says that the only way to overcome the fear is to see if it actually exists. This will not only benifit the boys (they will see no beastie) but it will benifit Simon because he will no longer be trying to convince everyone that they are wrong. Simon has the power to end the boys' fear, but no one will listen to him. The consequence is that the beast will only grow, causing more destruction as the novel progresses. |
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Post by Yor a wizard Harry!! (Ashton) on Feb 18, 2015 20:54:37 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion? Simon wants to prove that the beast is not real, he suggests to do so as that is where the supposed beast lives. Simon knows if he gets to the top of the mountain to find the beast (to not find the beast) that the boys will believe him. He wants the boys to face their fear. |
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Post by elisegrant on Feb 19, 2015 11:44:55 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion? Simon suggests that the boys climb the mountain to find out if there really is a beast. The boys react with fear and even Piggy, who doesn't even believe in the beast, doesn't understand what good that will do. Simon Shen asks "What else is there to do?" This implies that the only way not to fear the beast is to face it. We then follow Simon up the mountain where he sees the brutal killing of the female pig. After suggesting this and seeing how the boys act when killing the sow, it helps Simon to believe that the boys are actually the beast. |
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Post by allanaedgell on Feb 23, 2015 9:20:34 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion? Simon suggests that the boys climb the mountain to find out if there really is a beast. The boys react with fear and even Piggy, who doesn't even believe in the beast, doesn't understand what good that will do. Simon Shen asks "What else is there to do?" This implies that the only way not to fear the beast is to face it. We then follow Simon up the mountain where he sees the brutal killing of the female pig. A agree with you Hope. I feel that Simon is neglected and pushed aside a little bit because none of the boys listen to his ideas and thoughts when he is probably one of the smartest on the island. I feel sorry for Simon as he is right but no one will listen. |
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Post by emilyhadzalic on Feb 24, 2015 10:52:04 GMT
What suggestion does Simon make, and why do you think he makes it? What does he mean when he says, “What else is there to do?” What are the consequences of the group's decision not to follow Simon's suggestion? Simon's suggestion was for the boys to climb up the mountain. I think that he suggests this because he believes that the beastie is actually the boys themselves and that he wants the boys to realise and understand this, instead of living in fear of some beastie on top of the mountain for the rest of their lives. Simon tells the boys, "What else is there to do?" and this could show that Simon thinks that the boys will never mature or progress in their lives until they confront their inner beasties. The consequences of the boys deciding not to follow Simon's suggestion is that they don't get the chance to discover that the beastie is just themselves, and that bit of information could've ended up saving lives. |
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