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Post by MsElliott on Feb 11, 2015 10:08:57 GMT
When Jack says, "I'm not going to play any longer", what metaphor is Golding using about their lives on the island? How do Jack's words contrast with Ralph's ideas?
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Post by isabelleewert on Feb 17, 2015 10:23:23 GMT
When Jack says, "I'm not going to play any longer", what metaphor is Golding using about their lives on the island? How do Jack's words contrast with Ralph's ideas? By Jack saying that "I'm not going to play any longer", suggests that to Jack their whole experience on the island is a game, much like his hunting game, and he can simply remove himself from it by leaving Ralph and the others. This also explains what Jack thinks of Ralph and the way he is leading. Ralph's ideas have always been around being rescued and doing everything possible to look after themselves until they are. By Jack saying that he won't play any longer, suggests that he may not want to be rescued at all and wants to hunt rather than work as a group to get off the island.
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Post by emilyhadzalic on Feb 17, 2015 21:10:04 GMT
When Jack says, "I'm not going to play any longer", what metaphor is Golding using about their lives on the island? How do Jack's words contrast with Ralph's ideas? By Jack saying that he doesn't want to play, it suggests that Jack was never taking their experience on the island seriously and that everything they do is just a game to him. It could also show that Jack still has some innocence because he's talking in such a childish way. His words contrast with Ralph's ideas because Ralph is trying so hard to be a serious and good leader, like an adult, and Jack is ruining his plans by acting like a little kid.
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Post by isabelleewert on Feb 17, 2015 22:29:31 GMT
When Jack says, "I'm not going to play any longer", what metaphor is Golding using about their lives on the island? How do Jack's words contrast with Ralph's ideas? By Jack saying that he doesn't want to play, it suggests that Jack was never taking their experience on the island seriously and that everything they do is just a game to him. It could also show that Jack still has some innocence because he's talking in such a childish way. His words contrast with Ralph's ideas because Ralph is trying so hard to be a serious and good leader, like an adult, and Jack is ruining his plans by acting like a little kid. I agree that Jack never took their experience on the island seriously and that Jack is being childish in saying that he won't 'play' anymore. Ralph is trying to be a good leader for the boys while Jack is making it difficult to do so.
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Post by remimckenzie on Feb 18, 2015 4:24:05 GMT
When Jack says, "I'm not going to play any longer", what metaphor is Golding using about their lives on the island? How do Jack's words contrast with Ralph's ideas? When Jack says I don't want to play anymore, it depicts that Ralph is fed up with how he treats everything like a game when it comes to living on this island. Obviously Ralph is upset at the fact that he always has be the mature one on an island with a group of boys. Jack is not cooperating well with Ralph. This contrasts when Ralph is continually thinking about how he wants to get off the island and the ideas he thinks of most of the time head towards that general plan, however Jack just thinks of what he thinks would be fun and enjoyable for him.
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Post by Hope15 on Feb 18, 2015 5:53:56 GMT
When Jack says, "I'm not going to play any longer", what metaphor is Golding using about their lives on the island? How do Jack's words contrast with Ralph's ideas? When Jack says I don't want to play anymore, it depicts that Ralph is fed up with how he treats everything like a game when it comes to living on this island. Obviously Ralph is upset at the fact that he always has be the mature one on an island with a group of boys. Jack is not cooperating well with Ralph. This contrasts when Ralph is continually thinking about how he wants to get off the island and the ideas he thinks of most of the time head towards that general plan, however Jack just thinks of what he thinks would be fun and enjoyable for him. I agree. This shows us clearly the differences in Ralph and Jack's behaviour and thinking. Jack treats everything like a game and doesn't realise the severity of their situation, while Ralph is actually concerned about getting rescued and making sure there is shelter and food for everyone.
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Post by emah on Feb 18, 2015 6:17:41 GMT
When Jack says, "I'm not going to play any longer", what metaphor is Golding using about their lives on the island? How do Jack's words contrast with Ralph's ideas? By Jack saying that "I'm not going to play any longer", suggests that to Jack their whole experience on the island is a game, much like his hunting game, and he can simply remove himself from it by leaving Ralph and the others. This also explains what Jack thinks of Ralph and the way he is leading. Ralph's ideas have always been around being rescued and doing everything possible to look after themselves until they are. By Jack saying that he won't play any longer, suggests that he may not want to be rescued at all and wants to hunt rather than work as a group to get off the island. Jack is tired of living under Ralph's orders, so he leaves to live his way. When he was in the group, he could have been 'playing' by dealing with the system. But Jack doesn't want to be rescued as much anymore, so is confident enough to live separately on the Island and provide the necessities for himself.
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Post by zoel on Feb 18, 2015 7:30:20 GMT
it shows that Jack sees the whole situation as a game. he says he does want to play the game as though he thinks it is all a joke. this contradicts Ralph's seriousness of the island and situation they are in.
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Post by kayleewilliams on Feb 18, 2015 8:54:00 GMT
When Jack says, "I'm not going to play any longer", what metaphor is Golding using about their lives on the island? How do Jack's words contrast with Ralph's ideas? By Jack saying that "I'm not going to play any longer", suggests that to Jack their whole experience on the island is a game, much like his hunting game, and he can simply remove himself from it by leaving Ralph and the others. This also explains what Jack thinks of Ralph and the way he is leading. Ralph's ideas have always been around being rescued and doing everything possible to look after themselves until they are. By Jack saying that he won't play any longer, suggests that he may not want to be rescued at all and wants to hunt rather than work as a group to get off the island. This shows that, all along, Jack viewed everything as a game.
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Post by lilyklunyk on Feb 18, 2015 9:32:10 GMT
When Jacks says that he won't play anymore, it shows that he thought that life on the island with Ralph as the leader was one big game that all of the boys were playing. He probably feels as though everything Ralph was doing as leader was silly and that he was just playing by Ralph's rules. Jack basically says that when he is chief, life on the island won't be a game or he will play by his own rules.
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Post by zoebia on Feb 18, 2015 10:19:45 GMT
When Jack says, "I'm not going to play any longer", what metaphor is Golding using about their lives on the island? How do Jack's words contrast with Ralph's ideas? When Jack says I don't want to play anymore, it depicts that Ralph is fed up with how he treats everything like a game when it comes to living on this island. Obviously Ralph is upset at the fact that he always has be the mature one on an island with a group of boys. Jack is not cooperating well with Ralph. This contrasts when Ralph is continually thinking about how he wants to get off the island and the ideas he thinks of most of the time head towards that general plan, however Jack just thinks of what he thinks would be fun and enjoyable for him. it does represent how he hasnt taken there time on the island seriously. I agree that Ralph is fed up, being mature unlike the others, the boys think differently about being on the island
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Post by Yor a wizard Harry!! (Ashton) on Feb 18, 2015 10:29:21 GMT
When Jack says, "I'm not going to play any longer", what metaphor is Golding using about their lives on the island? How do Jack's words contrast with Ralph's ideas? When Jack Says, "I'm not going to play any longer", this means that he has never taken their experience on the island seriously. Jack has suggested that the whole hunting is like a game. Jack saying he wont play anymore may suggest that he never wants to leave the island. He only wants to hunt in the small group, not contribute to the groups rescue.
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Post by elisegrant on Feb 19, 2015 12:02:23 GMT
When Jack says "I'm not going to play any longer", it is like he is saying that their time on the island is just a game so nothing really needs to be taken seriously. This could be why he wants to kill the pig so badly because he feels like he won the game when he has killed a pig. He might also have such a big problem with Ralph because Jack feels he is leading in the game because he is leader.
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Post by stewarts on Feb 22, 2015 1:07:03 GMT
Jack's whole experience on the island has ben taken as a game to him, a game where surviving with rules was the objective. It seems tnat Jack has now gotten bored with this game amd is looking to create his own. These words contrast with Ralph's ideas, as Jack is not persuing rescue, but an enjoyable life on the island.
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Post by kate Fincham on Feb 22, 2015 12:56:39 GMT
When Jack says, "I'm not going to play any longer", what metaphor is Golding using about their lives on the island? How do Jack's words contrast with Ralph's ideas? By Jack saying that he doesn't want to play, it suggests that Jack was never taking their experience on the island seriously and that everything they do is just a game to him. It could also show that Jack still has some innocence because he's talking in such a childish way. His words contrast with Ralph's ideas because Ralph is trying so hard to be a serious and good leader, like an adult, and Jack is ruining his plans by acting like a little kid. I think his words also contrast with Ralph's ideology because Ralph had decreed that on the island they could have fun while still managing to survive.
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