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Post by MsElliott on Jan 30, 2015 1:17:03 GMT
Jack has pointedly ignored or derided Piggy's contributions to the group's ideas, but now, in the lighting of the fire, Piggy proves useful. How? Why are the boys so disregarding of Piggy?
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Post by zoel on Feb 1, 2015 8:20:48 GMT
Jack has pointedly ignored or derided Piggy's contributions to the group's ideas, but now, in the lighting of the fire, Piggy proves useful. How? Why are the boys so disregarding of Piggy? So far, throughout the book, Piggy has been suggesting ideas that are fair and intelligent. He has proven himself to be someone who is very rational and should be listened to, yet all the boys see his comical looks and disregard what he has to say. they seem to take Piggy as a joke and even when his glasses prove useful in starting the fire, they still don't listen to his opinions and views. |
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Post by kate Fincham on Feb 1, 2015 8:26:17 GMT
Jack has pointedly ignored or derided Piggy's contributions to the group's ideas, but now, in the lighting of the fire, Piggy proves useful. How? Why are the boys so disregarding of Piggy? So far, throughout the book, Piggy has been suggesting ideas that are fair and intelligent. He has proven himself to be someone who is very rational and should be listened to, yet all the boys see his comical looks and disregard what he has to say. they seem to take Piggy as a joke and even when his glasses prove useful in starting the fire, they still don't listen to his opinions and views. I agree with this and also think that the other boys disregard piggy because hes very different from the rest of them and is a clear outsider. He has a different way of thinking and reasoning, and this makes him an outcast. |
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Post by zoewatson on Feb 1, 2015 9:04:19 GMT
Jack has pointedly ignored or derided Piggy's contributions to the group's ideas, but now, in the lighting of the fire, Piggy proves useful. How? Why are the boys so disregarding of Piggy? So far, throughout the book, Piggy has been suggesting ideas that are fair and intelligent. He has proven himself to be someone who is very rational and should be listened to, yet all the boys see his comical looks and disregard what he has to say. they seem to take Piggy as a joke and even when his glasses prove useful in starting the fire, they still don't listen to his opinions and views. I completely agree. Piggy is by far the most intelligent of the boys on the island. He is also has the most realistic ideas when comes to surviving on the island. The boys disfigured piggy because he different to the rest of them, even though he is the smartest and should be listened to. |
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Post by mattsmart on Feb 1, 2015 10:31:21 GMT
Jack has pointedly ignored or derided Piggy's contributions to the group's ideas, but now, in the lighting of the fire, Piggy proves useful. How? Why are the boys so disregarding of Piggy? So far, throughout the book, Piggy has been suggesting ideas that are fair and intelligent. He has proven himself to be someone who is very rational and should be listened to, yet all the boys see his comical looks and disregard what he has to say. they seem to take Piggy as a joke and even when his glasses prove useful in starting the fire, they still don't listen to his opinions and views. I agree with what you are saying as that he would always have a great idea to be put forward but no one would listen to him because he is very different to all the other boys in size wise and intelligence. They also don't listen to him because he isnt one of the leaders of the group and his voice is only a little sound that can never be projected above the rest. |
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Post by coreym on Feb 1, 2015 10:46:06 GMT
Jack has pointedly ignored or derided Piggy's contributions to the group's ideas, but now, in the lighting of the fire, Piggy proves useful. How? Why are the boys so disregarding of Piggy? So far, throughout the book, Piggy has been suggesting ideas that are fair and intelligent. He has proven himself to be someone who is very rational and should be listened to, yet all the boys see his comical looks and disregard what he has to say. they seem to take Piggy as a joke and even when his glasses prove useful in starting the fire, they still don't listen to his opinions and views. Is agree with this. The boys don't follow Piggy because he is looked down by the leaders and he is negative. Whereas Ralph is positive, but unrealistic. |
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Post by remimckenzie on Feb 1, 2015 13:29:26 GMT
Jack has pointedly ignored or derided Piggy's contributions to the group's ideas, but now, in the lighting of the fire, Piggy proves useful. How? Why are the boys so disregarding of Piggy? So far, throughout the book, Piggy has been suggesting ideas that are fair and intelligent. He has proven himself to be someone who is very rational and should be listened to, yet all the boys see his comical looks and disregard what he has to say. they seem to take Piggy as a joke and even when his glasses prove useful in starting the fire, they still don't listen to his opinions and views. They probably don't listen to Piggy as he is too intelligent for the rest of the group, therefore is looked at as a "smarty pants". It doesn't help that they are all influenced by 2 boys who pick on him because he gives better ideas than they do. |
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Post by zoebia on Feb 1, 2015 14:12:46 GMT
So far, throughout the book, Piggy has been suggesting ideas that are fair and intelligent. He has proven himself to be someone who is very rational and should be listened to, yet all the boys see his comical looks and disregard what he has to say. they seem to take Piggy as a joke and even when his glasses prove useful in starting the fire, they still don't listen to his opinions and views. I agree with this and also think that the other boys disregard piggy because hes very different from the rest of them and is a clear outsider. He has a different way of thinking and reasoning, and this makes him an outcast. I agree that Piggy has been suggesting ideas that are fair and intelligent, but although the boys disregard him i think they also don't listen because Piggy has more of an understanding about the danger they are in and the boys aren't able to see the reality as he can. |
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Post by kayleewilliams on Feb 2, 2015 0:31:25 GMT
So far, throughout the book, Piggy has been suggesting ideas that are fair and intelligent. He has proven himself to be someone who is very rational and should be listened to, yet all the boys see his comical looks and disregard what he has to say. they seem to take Piggy as a joke and even when his glasses prove useful in starting the fire, they still don't listen to his opinions and views. I agree with this and also think that the other boys disregard piggy because hes very different from the rest of them and is a clear outsider. He has a different way of thinking and reasoning, and this makes him an outcast. The boys are so disregarding of Piggy because to them, he is weak and not leadership material, unlike Ralph. |
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Post by lilyklunyk on Feb 2, 2015 4:53:27 GMT
Piggy proves useful because his glasses were used to light the fire. The boys are so disregarding of Piggy because he is very different to them. Piggy is far more intelligent than the other boys and he can see the realistic side of situations. He is the only one with glasses and is bigger than the other boys. Unfortunately, these characteristics make him the bullied type.
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Post by Yor a wizard Harry!! (Ashton) on Feb 2, 2015 5:44:13 GMT
Piggy proves useful because his glasses were used to light the fire. The boys are so disregarding of Piggy because he is very different to them. Piggy is far more intelligent than the other boys and he can see the realistic side of situations. He is the only one with glasses and is bigger than the other boys. Unfortunately, these characteristics make him the bullied type. I Agree with your statement lily, he does seem to be quite intelligent even considering his slang type language. The boys also treat him in such a way that they steal his ideas, they do this several times in chapter two, and disregard the most important points that he makes. Piggy is the bullied type and though he is different to the others he persists to try become a leader, he uses the conch; but ultimately fails. |
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Post by jemimareid on Feb 2, 2015 10:09:40 GMT
Jack has pointedly ignored or derided Piggy's contributions to the group's ideas, but now, in the lighting of the fire, Piggy proves useful. How? Why are the boys so disregarding of Piggy? Piggy proves useful in the lighting of the fire because they use his specs to create fire. But the boys are still disregarding him because of his weight and obvious infererior athletic standing to the other boys. All he has is his smarts, and while listening to him could spell success for the boys, he lacks the athletic abilities that will demand respect on an island such as this. |
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Post by Yor a wizard Harry!! (Ashton) on Feb 3, 2015 5:10:19 GMT
Jack has pointedly ignored or derided Piggy's contributions to the group's ideas, but now, in the lighting of the fire, Piggy proves useful. How? Why are the boys so disregarding of Piggy? Piggy proves useful in the lighting of the fire because they use his specs to create fire. But the boys are still disregarding him because of his weight and obvious infererior athletic standing to the other boys. All he has is his smarts, and while listening to him could spell success for the boys, he lacks the athletic abilities that will demand respect on an island such as this. I agree with your statement Jemima, piggy could spell success for the boys, perhaps now that he has proven that he isn't as worthless as he seems he may gain a little more respect. |
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Post by elisegrant on Feb 3, 2015 9:27:27 GMT
Jack has ignored Piggy in every way and tries not to let Piggy share his thoughts but Piggy proves useful when they have to light the fire because they use his glasses to create the spark. The boys very are disregarding of Piggy because no of the leaders let Piggy talk so it sets an example for all the other boys too However, Simon is the only one that stands up for Piggy saying they wouldn't of had the fire if it hadn't of been for his glasses.
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Post by emah on Feb 3, 2015 10:26:14 GMT
Jack has ignored Piggy in every way and tries not to let Piggy share his thoughts but Piggy proves useful when they have to light the fire because they use his glasses to create the spark. The boys very are disregarding of Piggy because no of the leaders let Piggy talk so it sets an example for all the other boys too However, Simon is the only one that stands up for Piggy saying they wouldn't of had the fire if it hadn't of been for his glasses. As Jack leads an example of not listening to Piggy, the other boys feel pushed to do so. Even when Simon is stating the facts, Piggy is just as badly left out by Jack and Ralph. With all his suggestions, Piggy should be listened to just as equally, yet his unique characteristics are what gets him disregarded. |
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