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Post by MsElliott on Feb 22, 2015 18:12:52 GMT
How do the biguns seem to define a “proper chief”? What does this criterion suggest about human psychology?
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Post by isabelleewert on Feb 24, 2015 6:02:07 GMT
How do the biguns seem to define a “proper chief”? What does this criterion suggest about human psychology? The biguns of the tribe, define Jack as a "proper chief" because he devises means of protecting their fort. The boys also comment that Jack is taking them hunting and this also makes Jack a proper chief. The boys are leaning towards a person who appears strong and resourceful in making the castle rock fully protected. This suggests that when a person is scared or unsure, they rely and look for guidance from a character who seems tough and can handle anything. By Jack taking the tribe hunting, we can see that the other boys find this comforting and 'manly'. |
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Post by Hope15 on Feb 26, 2015 5:42:32 GMT
How do the biguns seem to define a “proper chief”? What does this criterion suggest about human psychology? The biguns of the tribe, define Jack as a "proper chief" because he devises means of protecting their fort. The boys also comment that Jack is taking them hunting and this also makes Jack a proper chief. The boys are leaning towards a person who appears strong and resourceful in making the castle rock fully protected. This suggests that when a person is scared or unsure, they rely and look for guidance from a character who seems tough and can handle anything. By Jack taking the tribe hunting, we can see that the other boys find this comforting and 'manly'. That's an excellent point. The other boys find comfort in Jack's barbaric and over-the-top ways, and look to him as a protector. The way that Jack seems to fortify the rock castle gives the boys a sense of security which many of the boys rely on. The biguns describe him as a "proper chief" because in their eyes he is protecting them from danger and proving a safe and secure environment. |
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Post by emah on Feb 26, 2015 6:10:26 GMT
The biguns of the tribe, define Jack as a "proper chief" because he devises means of protecting their fort. The boys also comment that Jack is taking them hunting and this also makes Jack a proper chief. The boys are leaning towards a person who appears strong and resourceful in making the castle rock fully protected. This suggests that when a person is scared or unsure, they rely and look for guidance from a character who seems tough and can handle anything. By Jack taking the tribe hunting, we can see that the other boys find this comforting and 'manly'. That's an excellent point. The other boys find comfort in Jack's barbaric and over-the-top ways, and look to him as a protector. The way that Jack seems to fortify the rock castle gives the boys a sense of security which many of the boys rely on. The biguns describe him as a "proper chief" because in their eyes he is protecting them from danger and proving a safe and secure environment. Just adding on, I think because Jack is perceived as being organised and assertive, he is being seen as the boy who can lead the group in survival. This is by Jack having a clear idea of how he wants to live. This is important for the boys to feel calm and not have to take action for themselves. This represents that humans will follow whoever has a plan and is passionate about it enough to organise it for others. |
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Post by allanaedgell on Feb 26, 2015 6:16:44 GMT
That's an excellent point. The other boys find comfort in Jack's barbaric and over-the-top ways, and look to him as a protector. The way that Jack seems to fortify the rock castle gives the boys a sense of security which many of the boys rely on. The biguns describe him as a "proper chief" because in their eyes he is protecting them from danger and proving a safe and secure environment. Just adding on, I think because Jack is perceived as being organised and assertive, he is being seen as the boy who can lead the group in survival. This is by Jack having a clear idea of how he wants to live. This is important for the boys to feel calm and not have to take action for themselves. This represents that humans will follow whoever has a plan and is passionate about it enough to organise it for others. I think you both make great points here, I just wanted to add on that Jack also lets the boys have fun. They enjoy the hunting that Jack leads and Jack basically lets them do whatever they want (within reason). He also doesn't ask them to do labourous jobs (e.g building shelters) like Ralph used to do. |
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Post by lilyklunyk on Feb 26, 2015 9:38:53 GMT
Just adding on, I think because Jack is perceived as being organised and assertive, he is being seen as the boy who can lead the group in survival. This is by Jack having a clear idea of how he wants to live. This is important for the boys to feel calm and not have to take action for themselves. This represents that humans will follow whoever has a plan and is passionate about it enough to organise it for others. I think you both make great points here, I just wanted to add on that Jack also lets the boys have fun. They enjoy the hunting that Jack leads and Jack basically lets them do whatever they want (within reason). He also doesn't ask them to do labourous jobs (e.g building shelters) like Ralph used to do. I agree that the boys like following Jack because they feel as though they have fun. They don't have to stay up all night watching a signal fire that they don't even believe will get them rescued. Seeing as though they are so young, they would rather have fun than try to get off the island. |
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Post by mattsmart on Feb 26, 2015 11:06:57 GMT
The define jack as a proper chief because he is the one actting tough and is actually doing this on the island like taking the boys hunting for food.
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Post by elisegrant on Feb 26, 2015 11:10:44 GMT
The define jack as a proper chief because he is the one actting tough and is actually doing this on the island like taking the boys hunting for food. also, Jack comes off to the boys as strong and powerful to which the boys like. He also allows the boys to have more fun than Ralph did when they were part of his tribe. |
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Post by Yor a wizard Harry!! (Ashton) on Feb 26, 2015 21:57:12 GMT
How do the biguns seem to define a “proper chief”? What does this criterion suggest about human psychology? Suddenly the bigger boys have decided to dub Jack the"proper chief". I believe this is more out of fear than anything. Jack is a hunter, he is the one in power with a more manly touch on the island. Jack has prepared the boys for war in a sense, he has created a fort and he feels to be able to prepare the boys and offer them the tough barricade they need. |
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Post by lindadate on Mar 1, 2015 10:29:14 GMT
The biguns define a proper chief as one who builds a fort to protect them, takes them hunting and has feasts with them, as Jack has done. Although he is more eccentric than Ralph, he has a stronger belief in his ideas and seems like a more powerful figure to rally behind. This suggests that during times of struggle, humans look to a leader who is not necessarily good, but is steadfast in his beliefs and offers protection.
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Post by zoebia on Mar 2, 2015 1:17:18 GMT
How do the biguns seem to define a “proper chief”? What does this criterion suggest about human psychology? The older boys define Jack as the proper chief because he is providing the food, and taking the boys with him. This makes it appear that he respects the boys. The like being around Jack because he is strong and brave, but he is also very controlling. To many of the boys, this seems to be just him protecting them from any dangers on the Island, where really he wants to be the leader and hold all the power over everyone. This suggests that people lean more towards a person who will keep them safe, and provide them with things they need while also trusting them to help as well. I think everyone also can shut out other aspects of a person who they think will always protect them, and become blind to the fact they may be being used for bad or for someone own selfish benefit. |
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Post by emilyhadzalic on Mar 4, 2015 21:12:43 GMT
The biguns define a proper chief as one who builds a fort to protect them, takes them hunting and has feasts with them, as Jack has done. Although he is more eccentric than Ralph, he has a stronger belief in his ideas and seems like a more powerful figure to rally behind. This suggests that during times of struggle, humans look to a leader who is not necessarily good, but is steadfast in his beliefs and offers protection. I agree that when humans are suffering from bad times, that they'd happily accept an eccentric but not so good leader. I think that Jack's confidence one of the reasons why the boys respect him so much as a leader and that Ralph's lack of confidence is one of the reasons why the other boys left him. Ralph is always forgetting what he's talking about and it probably doesn't comfort the boys to see their leader acting so incompetent. |
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