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Post by MsElliott on Feb 22, 2015 18:21:32 GMT
Why do you think Roger pushes the rock off the cliff?
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Post by jemimareid on Feb 25, 2015 9:04:13 GMT
Why do you think Roger pushes the rock off the cliff? I think Roger pushed the rock off the cliff in a fit of mindless violence. Even though he has shown sociopathic tendencies, he hasn't shown particular hate towards Piggy and I think that Roger showed another step of savagery. Violence for the sake of entertainment. From the moment he asked what the rock was for, his fascination with the 'defence technique' against Ralph and the boys, seemed evident to me. I think inside, he was itching for a chance to use it. To me, this makes him the most savage of all the boys. He killed Piggy for a sense of wonderment and enjoyment. And that is one of the things I find most wrong in our society today. When people hurt other people 'just coz they feel like it'. |
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Post by isabelleewert on Feb 26, 2015 5:11:42 GMT
Why do you think Roger pushes the rock off the cliff? I think Roger pushed the rock off the cliff in a fit of mindless violence. Even though he has shown sociopathic tendencies, he hasn't shown particular hate towards Piggy and I think that Roger showed another step of savagery. Violence for the sake of entertainment. From the moment he asked what the rock was for, his fascination with the 'defence technique' against Ralph and the boys, seemed evident to me. I think inside, he was itching for a chance to use it. To me, this makes him the most savage of all the boys. He killed Piggy for a sense of wonderment and enjoyment. And that is one of the things I find most wrong in our society today. When people hurt other people 'just coz they feel like it'. I agree, Roger was not thinking straight at all and didn't understand the consequences of his actions. Even if he did realise what he was doing was going to harm someone drastically, this didn't seem to faze Roger at all as he pushed the rock off the cliff. |
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Post by Hope15 on Feb 26, 2015 6:05:35 GMT
I think Roger pushed the rock off the cliff in a fit of mindless violence. Even though he has shown sociopathic tendencies, he hasn't shown particular hate towards Piggy and I think that Roger showed another step of savagery. Violence for the sake of entertainment. From the moment he asked what the rock was for, his fascination with the 'defence technique' against Ralph and the boys, seemed evident to me. I think inside, he was itching for a chance to use it. To me, this makes him the most savage of all the boys. He killed Piggy for a sense of wonderment and enjoyment. And that is one of the things I find most wrong in our society today. When people hurt other people 'just coz they feel like it'. I agree, Roger was not thinking straight at all and didn't understand the consequences of his actions. Even if he did realise what he was doing was going to harm someone drastically, this didn't seem to faze Roger at all as he pushed the rock off the cliff. Adding on, Roger seems unstable and may have wanted to cause destruction just for fun. He wouldn't care whether someone was harmed or even killed so long as it provided him with some form of enjoyment. I like how Isabelle pointed out that the action didn't even 'faze' him nor did the consequences. |
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Post by zoel on Feb 26, 2015 7:54:08 GMT
I agree, Roger was not thinking straight at all and didn't understand the consequences of his actions. Even if he did realise what he was doing was going to harm someone drastically, this didn't seem to faze Roger at all as he pushed the rock off the cliff. Adding on, Roger seems unstable and may have wanted to cause destruction just for fun. He wouldn't care whether someone was harmed or even killed so long as it provided him with some form of enjoyment. I like how Isabelle pointed out that the action didn't even 'faze' him nor did the consequences. this is all a good theory, but also at the end of the chapter Roger seems quite okay with inflicting pan upon sam and eric. this could either be a sign that Roger always had a taste for blood or that the death of both Simon and Piggy have given he a drive to kill. |
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Post by allanaedgell on Feb 26, 2015 9:20:23 GMT
Why do you think Roger pushes the rock off the cliff? I think that Roger enjoys inflicting pain on humans and he is excited by the thought of hurting Piggy. He has shown sociopathic characteristics in previous chapters (throwing rocks at Henry the littun) and this is showing how his violence has excalated. From the time Piggy arrived at Castle rock, Rogar has been wanted to hurt him. He was throwing rocks until in a "sense of delirious abandonment", he pushes the lever down, letting the rock fall. He knew it would fall on Poggy and kill him, or at the very least, seriously injure him. |
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Post by kayleewilliams on Feb 26, 2015 12:32:09 GMT
Why do you think Roger pushes the rock off the cliff? I think Roger pushed the rock off the cliff in a fit of mindless violence. Even though he has shown sociopathic tendencies, he hasn't shown particular hate towards Piggy and I think that Roger showed another step of savagery. Violence for the sake of entertainment. From the moment he asked what the rock was for, his fascination with the 'defence technique' against Ralph and the boys, seemed evident to me. I think inside, he was itching for a chance to use it. To me, this makes him the most savage of all the boys. He killed Piggy for a sense of wonderment and enjoyment. And that is one of the things I find most wrong in our society today. When people hurt other people 'just coz they feel like it'. He possibly also hadn't thought it through properly, as he may not have realised the consequences of his actions. |
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Post by lindadate on Mar 1, 2015 9:54:57 GMT
Roger seems like the kind of person who enjoys inflicting pain upon others, which is shown earlier when he threw rocks at the littluns. He also seems impulsive, and pushes the rock off the cliff while he is caught up in the heat of the moment.
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Post by zoebia on Mar 2, 2015 8:37:33 GMT
I agree, Roger was not thinking straight at all and didn't understand the consequences of his actions. Even if he did realise what he was doing was going to harm someone drastically, this didn't seem to faze Roger at all as he pushed the rock off the cliff. Adding on, Roger seems unstable and may have wanted to cause destruction just for fun. He wouldn't care whether someone was harmed or even killed so long as it provided him with some form of enjoyment. I like how Isabelle pointed out that the action didn't even 'faze' him nor did the consequences. I think the fact that Roger doesn't like Piggy is a big part of what he did, Roger has shown violence and savageness before but he also showed some sympathy and doubt to jacks leadership, so i feel like he wouldn't do this to someone who he particularly likes, its a big part of the hate he has towards piggy and maybe even the loyalty he wants to show jack. |
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Post by mackenzieg on Mar 4, 2015 13:55:04 GMT
Why do you think Roger pushes the rock off the cliff? I think Roger pushed the rock off the cliff in a fit of mindless violence. Even though he has shown sociopathic tendencies, he hasn't shown particular hate towards Piggy and I think that Roger showed another step of savagery. Violence for the sake of entertainment. From the moment he asked what the rock was for, his fascination with the 'defence technique' against Ralph and the boys, seemed evident to me. I think inside, he was itching for a chance to use it. To me, this makes him the most savage of all the boys. He killed Piggy for a sense of wonderment and enjoyment. And that is one of the things I find most wrong in our society today. When people hurt other people 'just coz they feel like it'. i think it also may have been that he was mindlessly following Jack and had been consumed by savagery and jacks rule that he thought that this act of violence against someone that jack disliked would please him and that jack would reply to him with praise. |
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Post by mackenzieg on Mar 4, 2015 13:55:14 GMT
Why do you think Roger pushes the rock off the cliff? I think Roger pushed the rock off the cliff in a fit of mindless violence. Even though he has shown sociopathic tendencies, he hasn't shown particular hate towards Piggy and I think that Roger showed another step of savagery. Violence for the sake of entertainment. From the moment he asked what the rock was for, his fascination with the 'defence technique' against Ralph and the boys, seemed evident to me. I think inside, he was itching for a chance to use it. To me, this makes him the most savage of all the boys. He killed Piggy for a sense of wonderment and enjoyment. And that is one of the things I find most wrong in our society today. When people hurt other people 'just coz they feel like it'. i think it also may have been that he was mindlessly following Jack and had been consumed by savagery and jacks rule that he thought that this act of violence against someone that jack disliked would please him and that jack would reply to him with praise. |
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Post by emilyhadzalic on Mar 5, 2015 2:05:10 GMT
Why do you think Roger pushes the rock off the cliff? I think Roger pushed the rock off the cliff in a fit of mindless violence. Even though he has shown sociopathic tendencies, he hasn't shown particular hate towards Piggy and I think that Roger showed another step of savagery. Violence for the sake of entertainment. From the moment he asked what the rock was for, his fascination with the 'defence technique' against Ralph and the boys, seemed evident to me. I think inside, he was itching for a chance to use it. To me, this makes him the most savage of all the boys. He killed Piggy for a sense of wonderment and enjoyment. And that is one of the things I find most wrong in our society today. When people hurt other people 'just coz they feel like it'. I agree that Roger pushed the rock off the cliff and crushed Piggy just because he felt like it. I think it's significant that Golding made Roger the character to push the rock, because he didn't particularly hate Piggy, and this situation could've been interpreted differently if Jack had pushed the rock. Rogers actions show a really terrible type of savagery where people hurt each other even though their violence isn't fuelled by anything like fear or anger. |
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