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Post by MsElliott on Feb 22, 2015 18:22:05 GMT
How is the destruction of the conch symbolically significant?
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Post by isabelleewert on Feb 25, 2015 5:42:53 GMT
How is the destruction of the conch symbolically significant? The destruction of the conch is significant as it symbolises the last hope of civilisation on the island being destroyed. The conch is smashed just as the order on the island is and it signifies that only Jack's tribe of savages remain. The conch also represented authority, especially Ralph's, and by the conch being broken suggests that the authority Ralph has over the boys and the chance of being rescued, is minute.
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Post by jemimareid on Feb 25, 2015 9:18:41 GMT
How is the destruction of the conch symbolically significant? The destruction of the conch is significant as it symbolises the last hope of civilisation on the island being destroyed. The conch is smashed just as the order on the island is and it signifies that only Jack's tribe of savages remain. The conch also represented authority, especially Ralph's, and by the conch being broken suggests that the authority Ralph has over the boys and the chance of being rescued, is minute. I have to wonder though, if all hope of civilisation is gone. Though I'm sure Sam and Eric will join the tribe, perhaps they will still demonstrate civilisation by helping Ralph in some way. Perhaps they might warn him of a coming attack. But still, I agree with you. In 90% of the boys, only savagery, an instinct for survival and a bloodthirsty temperament remain.
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Post by Hope15 on Feb 26, 2015 6:08:24 GMT
How is the destruction of the conch symbolically significant? The destruction of the conch is significant as it symbolises the last hope of civilisation on the island being destroyed. The conch is smashed just as the order on the island is and it signifies that only Jack's tribe of savages remain. The conch also represented authority, especially Ralph's, and by the conch being broken suggests that the authority Ralph has over the boys and the chance of being rescued, is minute. The conch's destruction also pointed out that civilisation can be easily crushed and that savage behaviours can be forced onto those who cannot hold on to their morality. Savagery and violence destroyed civilisation and order just as the rock pushed by Roger destroyed the conch.
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Post by coreym on Feb 26, 2015 7:16:26 GMT
How is the destruction of the conch symbolically significant? The conch was destroyed with Piggy when Roger pushed a boulder onto them. This symbolises that all authority, civilisation and free speech has been destroyed along with knowledge and reason.
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Post by allanaedgell on Feb 26, 2015 7:24:18 GMT
How is the destruction of the conch symbolically significant? The destruction of the conch symbolises the destruction of the civilisation on the island. This shows that only Jack's tribe of savages remain on the island and all hope of civilisation is lost. Also, the conch represented Ralph's authority on the island so now it is broken, it represents that all his authority is gone.
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Post by zoel on Feb 26, 2015 7:49:30 GMT
How is the destruction of the conch symbolically significant? The destruction of the conch is significant as it symbolises the last hope of civilisation on the island being destroyed. The conch is smashed just as the order on the island is and it signifies that only Jack's tribe of savages remain. The conch also represented authority, especially Ralph's, and by the conch being broken suggests that the authority Ralph has over the boys and the chance of being rescued, is minute. the time at which the conch is destroyed is significant because it is the same time that Piggy dies and is just after Simon is killed. Up until Simon's death, the boys have been descending slowly into savagry. simon's death was a very remarkable and was noicably savage. Simon's death had a big impact on Ralph and he was quite emotional over it. the conch was destroyed at the same time Piggy was killed. Piggy was the human equivillent of the conch so it is significant that they were both "destroyed"at the same time. This being so close to Simon's death, and considering how mch closer Ralph and Piggy are, this is going to impact Ralph a lot
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Post by lilyklunyk on Feb 26, 2015 9:13:34 GMT
How is the destruction of the conch symbolically significant? The destruction of the conch symbolises the destruction of the civilisation on the island. This shows that only Jack's tribe of savages remain on the island and all hope of civilisation is lost. Also, the conch represented Ralph's authority on the island so now it is broken, it represents that all his authority is gone. I agree that Ralph's authority on the island is gone. Ralph lost most of his followers, then Piggy and the conch. There isn't anything left that says Ralph could still be chief. Getting rid of Piggy and the conch was the downfall of Ralph.
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Post by mattsmart on Feb 26, 2015 11:22:20 GMT
How is the destruction of the conch symbolically significant? The conch was destroyed with Piggy when Roger pushed a boulder onto them. This symbolises that all authority, civilisation and free speech has been destroyed along with knowledge and reason. It also shows that the conch was the last hope for Ralph, and now that it is gone ralph has now lost all hope in survival
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Post by mattsmart on Feb 26, 2015 11:24:12 GMT
The destruction of the coch symbolises the last hope of authority and civilisation on the island being lost into nothing.
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Post by emah on Feb 26, 2015 11:25:33 GMT
How is the destruction of the conch symbolically significant? The destruction of the conch symbolises the destruction of the civilisation on the island. This shows that only Jack's tribe of savages remain on the island and all hope of civilisation is lost. Also, the conch represented Ralph's authority on the island so now it is broken, it represents that all his authority is gone. I agree. Now that the conch has been officially destroyed, the boys don't have anything to remind them about the behaviours in their old world. All the boys are going to rely on their survival skills with no restrictions to hold them back. The person with the most power will make the decisions and have control over everything as there is no equality and freedom anymore.
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Post by laurah on Feb 26, 2015 11:57:30 GMT
The destruction of the conch is significant as it symbolises the last hope of civilisation on the island being destroyed. The conch is smashed just as the order on the island is and it signifies that only Jack's tribe of savages remain. The conch also represented authority, especially Ralph's, and by the conch being broken suggests that the authority Ralph has over the boys and the chance of being rescued, is minute. I have to wonder though, if all hope of civilisation is gone. Though I'm sure Sam and Eric will join the tribe, perhaps they will still demonstrate civilisation by helping Ralph in some way. Perhaps they might warn him of a coming attack. But still, I agree with you. In 90% of the boys, only savagery, an instinct for survival and a bloodthirsty temperament remain. Any civilised manner on the island is mostly gone. If Sam and Eric did warn Ralph of a coming attack, they are still under Jack's power, and are only helping Ralph out of kindness and pity. A civilised action would be to drop their spears and try to stop the madness. This hint of civilisation is like the shattered remains of the conch; but it is surely broken.
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Post by laurah on Feb 26, 2015 11:59:53 GMT
How is the destruction of the conch symbolically significant? The destruction of the conch signifies that all reason and civilisation on the island has been shattered.
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Post by kayleewilliams on Feb 26, 2015 12:26:41 GMT
How is the destruction of the conch symbolically significant? The destruction of the conch is symbolically significant because, whilst once the conch was a symbol for authority and order, with those ideas becoming a thing of the past, the destruction shows that order on the island means nothing to the boys anymore.
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Post by remimckenzie on Feb 26, 2015 12:29:58 GMT
How is the destruction of the conch symbolically significant? The destruction of the conch signifies not only the death of Piggy, but the death of law, order and any civilisation that was left on that island. It becomes more clear how the boys are becoming more savage under Jack's lead. It also suggests that the leadership Ralph once possessed is now crushed.
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