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Post by MsElliott on Feb 22, 2015 18:30:47 GMT
What is ironic about how the boys are saved? What is ironic about the fact that the boys, who have become savages, are British, and why do you think Golding chose to write about a group of British boys? Consider what the naval officer says: “I should have thought that a pack of British boys would have been able to put up a better show than that.”
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Post by emah on Feb 26, 2015 12:00:31 GMT
What is ironic about how the boys are saved? What is ironic about the fact that the boys, who have become savages, are British, and why do you think Golding chose to write about a group of British boys? Consider what the naval officer says: “I should have thought that a pack of British boys would have been able to put up a better show than that.” I think it is ironic that the boys are saved by the smoke created by the fire used to try and kill Ralph. The blaze to kill Ralph had actually saved him, which is what he always wanted. I think Golding chose to write about British boys so there was a clear contrast between the behaviours of before and after. It is also showing that anyone can become savage no matter what influence they have received. The naval officer expected more from the boys but I think he would have related greatly if he had been in the boys' position. |
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Post by laurah on Feb 26, 2015 12:42:22 GMT
What is ironic about how the boys are saved? What is ironic about the fact that the boys, who have become savages, are British, and why do you think Golding chose to write about a group of British boys? Consider what the naval officer says: “I should have thought that a pack of British boys would have been able to put up a better show than that.” It is ironic that the smoke to save them was created by a fire to kill another. It is also ironic that these savage boys were once British, who come from a well developed country and take pride in civility. I think Golding chose to write about boys from this background to show that despite how anyone is brought up, they can descend into savagery when their society is stripped from them. The naval officer is bewildered as to how the boys became primitive so quickly, as their society is strictly civilised and the children are expected to be moral and civilised as well. |
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Post by zoel on Feb 26, 2015 20:42:32 GMT
What is ironic about how the boys are saved? What is ironic about the fact that the boys, who have become savages, are British, and why do you think Golding chose to write about a group of British boys? Consider what the naval officer says: “I should have thought that a pack of British boys would have been able to put up a better show than that.” there is irony in the fact that Ralph has been trying to catch the attention of a passing ship with smoke and nothing happens and yet when Jack uses the fire for evil and destruction, they are rescued. British people are stereotypically very proper and this contrasts with who they have become. In the beginning of the novel, they talk about being British but this hasn't been said for a long time, all the while they are making the descent into savagery. the juxtaposition of seeing the boys act so savagely towards Ralph and then being reminded they are British displays how far they have gone. |
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Post by Yor a wizard Harry!! (Ashton) on Mar 1, 2015 3:48:36 GMT
What is ironic about how the boys are saved? What is ironic about the fact that the boys, who have become savages, are British, and why do you think Golding chose to write about a group of British boys? Consider what the naval officer says: “I should have thought that a pack of British boys would have been able to put up a better show than that.” It is ironic that the smoke to save them was created by a fire to kill another. It is also ironic that these savage boys were once British, who come from a well developed country and take pride in civility. I think Golding chose to write about boys from this background to show that despite how anyone is brought up, they can descend into savagery when their society is stripped from them. The naval officer is bewildered as to how the boys became primitive so quickly, as their society is strictly civilised and the children are expected to be moral and civilised as well. I agree Laura, it is ironic how the fire that was meant to kill actually saved. Ralph's idea of a signal fire has been fulfilled on his death wish. If Jack wan not trying to kill Ralph, would they have been saved? |
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Post by elisegrant on Mar 1, 2015 6:31:03 GMT
What is ironic about how the boys are saved? What is ironic about the fact that the boys, who have become savages, are British, and why do you think Golding chose to write about a group of British boys? Consider what the naval officer says: “I should have thought that a pack of British boys would have been able to put up a better show than that.” It is ironic that the smoke to save them was created by a fire to kill another. It is also ironic that these savage boys were once British, who come from a well developed country and take pride in civility. I think Golding chose to write about boys from this background to show that despite how anyone is brought up, they can descend into savagery when their society is stripped from them. The naval officer is bewildered as to how the boys became primitive so quickly, as their society is strictly civilised and the children are expected to be moral and civilised as well. It is also ironic that an adult saves them too. During their time on the island, there was also the war going on, so the naval officers comment would show that he expects all British men to be civilised and represent their country proudly but also when battling, doing it with sophistication or with precautions that would make it commendable. |
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Post by lindadate on Mar 1, 2015 10:11:46 GMT
What is ironic about how the boys are saved? What is ironic about the fact that the boys, who have become savages, are British, and why do you think Golding chose to write about a group of British boys? Consider what the naval officer says: “I should have thought that a pack of British boys would have been able to put up a better show than that.” I think it is ironic that the boys are saved by the smoke created by the fire used to try and kill Ralph. The blaze to kill Ralph had actually saved him, which is what he always wanted. I think Golding chose to write about British boys so there was a clear contrast between the behaviours of before and after. It is also showing that anyone can become savage no matter what influence they have received. The naval officer expected more from the boys but I think he would have related greatly if he had been in the boys' position. It is also ironic because Ralph was the one saying that they needed to make a fire and be rescued, but in the end it was Jack that made the fire which enabled them to be rescued, when he actually wanted to stay on the island. |
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Post by zoebia on Mar 2, 2015 8:56:19 GMT
What is ironic about how the boys are saved? What is ironic about the fact that the boys, who have become savages, are British, and why do you think Golding chose to write about a group of British boys? Consider what the naval officer says: “I should have thought that a pack of British boys would have been able to put up a better show than that.” The ironic part of the book where the boys are safe is that a ship saw the smoke from the fire that jack had lit to hurt Ralph, not to be saved. It was the savages that were the reasons the boys got home. Golding wrote about British boys as it may have been easier to write about the before and after math of the effects on the island. The naval officer suggests that the British boys should have been 'able to put up a better show then that' to suggest that more was expected from them, but the island would strongly effect everyone this way. |
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