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Post by MsElliott on Feb 4, 2015 12:38:23 GMT
What do we learn about Roger and Maurice in the incidents on pp. 77-8?
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Post by lindadate on Feb 5, 2015 6:58:17 GMT
In chapter four, we learn that Roger and Maurice enjoy teasing and making the younger boys upset. Back in England they would have gotten in trouble for doing so from a parent or teacher, but there are no adults on the island to discipline them. However, Maurice does still feel the unease of wrongdoing.
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Post by lilyklunyk on Feb 5, 2015 7:02:45 GMT
The boys have fun teasing the "littluns", but they still have the lasting effect of human morals and society's rules in the back of their minds. They know that before they were on the island, adults would make sure a punishment would follow behaviour like that. We learn that even though they can and will torment the other boys, they can't shake off the guilty feeling they get afterwards.
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Post by emah on Feb 5, 2015 7:11:50 GMT
What do we learn about Roger and Maurice in the incidents on pp. 77-8? We learn that the two boys are very cold-hearted. Although they are not bothered by the three small boys playing in the sand, they destroy their castle and hurt Percival. We learn that a bit of wrong doing is still felt by Maurice but Roger is not bothered. When Roger throws the rocks at Henry, he takes enjoyment out of it. Adrenaline seems to take over and he doesn't seem to notice what he could do if the rocks hit Henry. But Roger still knows it is violent behavior, so won't let Henry see who randomly attacked him. The boys may be bored of the everyday activities they do so are attracted to fooling around even if they know it is wrong. |
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Post by lindadate on Feb 5, 2015 7:18:49 GMT
What do we learn about Roger and Maurice in the incidents on pp. 77-8? We learn that the two boys are very cold-hearted. Although they are not bothered by the three small boys playing in the sand, they destroy their castle and hurt Percival. We learn that a bit of wrong doing is still felt by Maurice but Roger is not bothered. When Roger throws the rocks at Henry, he takes enjoyment out of it. Adrenaline seems to take over and he doesn't seem to notice what he could do if the rocks hit Henry. But Roger still knows it is violent behavior, so won't let Henry see who randomly attacked him. The boys may be bored of the everyday activities they do so are attracted to fooling around even if they know it is wrong. Although it seems like Roger is throwing rocks at Henry, he deliberately misses him, which shows that he hasn't yet forgotton the morals of society. |
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Post by remimckenzie on Feb 5, 2015 7:41:34 GMT
What do we learn about Roger and Maurice in the incidents on pp. 77-8? We learn that Roger and Maurice are in a way bullies to the younger boys. This is shown in a scene where they torment the younger kids by stomping on their castle and throwing rocks at them. Both the boys have no adult supervision, therefore know that they will get away with it as no one tells them off. Although both Roger and Maurice do this to the little children, Maurice can't get rid of that guilty feeling he has have afterwards. I think that the boys are just acting out as they are trying to keep themselves entertained and perhaps coming to the realisation that no parents means no strict rules. Therefore, they rebel against what their parents would want. Maybe this is an indication that like others I am sure, they miss their parents. |
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Post by Hope15 on Feb 5, 2015 8:09:05 GMT
What do we learn about Roger and Maurice in the incidents on pp. 77-8? We learn that Roger and Maurice are in a way bullies to the younger boys. This is shown in a scene where they torment the younger kids by stomping on their castle and throwing rocks at them. Both the boys have no adult supervision, therefore know that they will get away with it as no one tells them off. Although both Roger and Maurice do this to the little children, Maurice can't get rid of that guilty feeling he has have afterwards. I think that the boys are just acting out as they are trying to keep themselves entertained and perhaps coming to the realisation that no parents means no strict rules. Therefore, they rebel against what their parents would want. Maybe this is an indication that like others I am sure, they miss their parents. I think that their behaviour does, as you said, portray they that miss their parents and also the general restrictions back in society. They would not have been able to get away with this back in civilisation and the guilty feeling that Maurice has reflects back on his sense of right and wrong. |
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Post by laurah on Feb 5, 2015 8:24:20 GMT
What do we learn about Roger and Maurice in the incidents on pp. 77-8? Roger and Maurice are bullies, who enjoy taunting the 'littluns'. They stomp through the young boys' sandcastle on their way to the water, and Percival cries at the sand landing in his eye. However, Maurice is uncomfortable at this because he knows he has done wrong, despite no one being there to scold him. He mutters an excuse to leave, and Roger is left to taunt Henry. |
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Post by laurah on Feb 5, 2015 8:27:36 GMT
The boys have fun teasing the "littluns", but they still have the lasting effect of human morals and society's rules in the back of their minds. They know that before they were on the island, adults would make sure a punishment would follow behaviour like that. We learn that even though they can and will torment the other boys, they can't shake off the guilty feeling they get afterwards. This guilt makes Roger and Maurice uncomfortable and uneasy, but they don't have the strength to apologise. Maurice mutters 'something about a swim and broke into a trot' to excuse himself from Percival's crying. |
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Post by kayleewilliams on Feb 5, 2015 9:04:00 GMT
In chapter four, we learn that Roger and Maurice enjoy teasing and making the younger boys upset. Back in England they would have gotten in trouble for doing so from a parent or teacher, but there are no adults on the island to discipline them. However, Maurice does still feel the unease of wrongdoing. This shows that without any adult input, the boys feel as though they are free to do what they want, which is a bad sign. The boys need to work together in order to survive. |
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Post by zoewatson on Feb 5, 2015 10:22:37 GMT
What do we learn about Roger and Maurice in the incidents on pp. 77-8? We learn that Maurice and Roger enjoy teasing the younger boys on the island. They are cold hearted and seek pleasure through destroying boys sand castles. Even though there is no adult to tell them off, Maurice still feels a sense of wrong. |
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Post by coreym on Feb 5, 2015 10:27:44 GMT
We see Roger and Maurice enjoying teasing the littleuns. They stomp on there sandcastles and get sand in Percival's eye. When Percival starts crying Maurice feels guilty because he knows he has done wrong, but there is no adult to tell him off. We learn that the boys still can feel guilty after hurting others.
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Post by allanaedgell on Feb 5, 2015 12:33:24 GMT
What do we learn about Roger and Maurice in the incidents on pp. 77-8? Roger and Maurice are bullies, who enjoy taunting the 'littluns'. They stomp through the young boys' sandcastle on their way to the water, and Percival cries at the sand landing in his eye. However, Maurice is uncomfortable at this because he knows he has done wrong, despite no one being there to scold him. He mutters an excuse to leave, and Roger is left to taunt Henry. While Roger is taunting Henry, he also recognises he is doing something wrong and therefore doesn't harm Henry as much as he could have. I think that could change as the novel progresses as the boys lose sight of their morals and ethics. |
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Post by mattsmart on Feb 5, 2015 21:09:30 GMT
Roger and Maurice like the tease the younger boys and make them upset, but if they were still in england they would of gotten in lots of trouble from teachers or a parent, but seeing though there are no parents of the island they don't get in trouble. However, Maurice still feels bad for doing it.
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Post by jemimareid on Feb 7, 2015 11:09:12 GMT
What do we learn about Roger and Maurice in the incidents on pp. 77-8? We learn a little about their past in this incident. From their bullying behaviour, we can assume that back in England, they would have been the bullies. But we also learn that Maurice perhaps also feels bad about what he did, however, it is possible Roger is a sociopath. |
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