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Post by MsElliott on Jan 30, 2015 0:50:38 GMT
Why does Jack not kill the piglet, when he had the opportunity?
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Post by isabelleewert on Feb 1, 2015 1:26:18 GMT
Why does Jack not kill the piglet, when he had the opportunity? Jack has the opportunity to kill the piglet while it is trapped in the undergrowth however he is unable to. He says to the other boys, 'I was choosing a place' when the piglet escaped and ran away. Jack was scared and didn't want to cut into living flesh and the other boys knew the blood would be unbearable. Jack wants to appear as a tough and strong man when really he is still a boy. He assures himself that he will kill it next time and that there will be no mercy as though he is disappointed in himself for not being capable of killing and embarrassing himself in front of other people.
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Post by kayleewilliams on Feb 1, 2015 2:01:16 GMT
Jack has the opportunity to kill the piglet while it is trapped in the undergrowth however he is unable to. He says to the other boys, 'I was choosing a place' when the piglet escaped and ran away. Jack was scared and didn't want to cut into living flesh and the other boys knew the blood would be unbearable. Jack wants to appear as a tough and strong man when really he is still a boy. He assures himself that he will kill it next time and that there will be no mercy as though he is disappointed in himself for not being capable of killing and embarrassing himself in front of other people. Despite Jack saying that he was 'choosing a place' to avoid humiliation after letting the piglet escape, he then says to Ralph and Simon that the best way to kill it is to slice it's throat, allowing all of the blood to flow out, so that you can eat the meat. Although questioning why he didn't follow through with it, knowing the best way to kill it, Ralph quickly realised and chose not to bring it up.
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Post by zoewatson on Feb 1, 2015 4:55:25 GMT
Why does Jack not kill the piglet, when he had the opportunity? Jack has the opportunity to kill a pig, whilst it's trapped in grassy undergrowth. Jack has his knife ready but can't come to the realisation of killing the pig. The pig then escapes the undergrowth and is able to run free without Jack killing it or even cutting it slightly. Jack was frightened to cut through living flesh and was scared of seeing all the blood come out. However not killing the pig was humiliating to him and he was angry with himself for this. He tells everyone that he didn't kill the pig because he was deciding on where to cut the pig. He said this so that the boys would see him as a tough man and that he will kill a pig the next time he sees one as if it's no big deal.
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Post by kate Fincham on Feb 1, 2015 7:34:30 GMT
Why does Jack not kill the piglet, when he had the opportunity? Jack has a very 'tough, no nonsense' exterior, but despite this he's still only a little boy. He was probably afraid to kill a fellow living creature and couldn't bear to see the pig suffer. After he hesitated he acted like he was just waiting for the right time, so the other boys wouldn't think he was weak and an unworthy choir leader, especially scince the choir were voted the 'hunters.'
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Post by emah on Feb 1, 2015 7:48:36 GMT
Why does Jack not kill the piglet, when he had the opportunity? Jack has the opportunity to kill a pig, whilst it's trapped in grassy undergrowth. Jack has his knife ready but can't come to the realisation of killing the pig. The pig then escapes the undergrowth and is able to run free without Jack killing it or even cutting it slightly. Jack was frightened to cut through living flesh and was scared of seeing all the blood come out. However not killing the pig was humiliating to him and he was angry with himself for this. He tells everyone that he didn't kill the pig because he was deciding on where to cut the pig. He said this so that the boys would see him as a tough man and that he will kill a pig the next time he sees one as if it's no big deal. I think why Jack didn't kill the pig is true. Also I think he was also too shocked to kill an animal on the first day, knowing what would happen but also not having the experience of being a hunter. As it says in the book: " He noticed that he still held the knife aloft and brought his arm down replacing the blade in the sheath. " P.40, he was uncomfortable being in a situation of having to hold the blade as a weapon instead of a tool. When he is proving his point that he'll kill it next time, he slams the knife into a tree trunk, which is not alive, quite easily with no hesitation. As Jack spends more time hunting, he will probably stop hesitating.
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Post by zoel on Feb 1, 2015 9:02:16 GMT
Why does Jack not kill the piglet, when he had the opportunity? Jack has the opportunity to kill a pig, whilst it's trapped in grassy undergrowth. Jack has his knife ready but can't come to the realisation of killing the pig. The pig then escapes the undergrowth and is able to run free without Jack killing it or even cutting it slightly. Jack was frightened to cut through living flesh and was scared of seeing all the blood come out. However not killing the pig was humiliating to him and he was angry with himself for this. He tells everyone that he didn't kill the pig because he was deciding on where to cut the pig. He said this so that the boys would see him as a tough man and that he will kill a pig the next time he sees one as if it's no big deal. In every recount of the story Jack always butts in and expresses his determination to kill the next pig he finds. "We saw-" "Squealing-" "It broke away-" "Before I could kill it- but- next time!" Jack slammed his knife into the trunk and looked around challengingly. the last part is Jack asserting himself almost as if to say "this is what will happen to you if you say otherwise"
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Post by mattsmart on Feb 1, 2015 9:11:40 GMT
Jack had the major opputunity of killing the puglet when it was stuck in the undergrowth, however when he pulls his knife out he doesn't strike the pig. Jack is frozen with his knife out and the pig is still squealing and squirming trying to break free. The pig finally breaks free and Jack still hadn't slashed the pig with his blade, he stands up and starts to walk away. He says that he was scared and he didn't want to cut in living flesh and he knew that the blood would be unbearable for the other boys. Jack also says that he didnt know where to cut the pig, but he says that next time he will kill the pig as he will have no mercy
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Post by laurah on Feb 1, 2015 9:26:39 GMT
Why does Jack not kill the piglet, when he had the opportunity? Jack has a very 'tough, no nonsense' exterior, but despite this he's still only a little boy. He was probably afraid to kill a fellow living creature and couldn't bear to see the pig suffer. After he hesitated he acted like he was just waiting for the right time, so the other boys wouldn't think he was weak and an unworthy choir leader, especially scince the choir were voted the 'hunters.' I agree with you that Jack is still a child and he hesitated to kill the pig because he couldn't bear to see it suffer, and this killing would no doubt stain Jack's childhood. However, I think that Jack will not hesitate to kill if another opportunity arises, and once he crosses the line of bloodshed, there will be no going back.
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Post by coreym on Feb 1, 2015 10:34:12 GMT
Why does Jack not kill the piglet, when he had the opportunity? Jack has the opportunity to kill the piglet while it is trapped in the undergrowth however he is unable to. He says to the other boys, 'I was choosing a place' when the piglet escaped and ran away. Jack was scared and didn't want to cut into living flesh and the other boys knew the blood would be unbearable. Jack wants to appear as a tough and strong man when really he is still a boy. He assures himself that he will kill it next time and that there will be no mercy as though he is disappointed in himself for not being capable of killing and embarrassing himself in front of other people. I agree with Jack wanting to appear tough, he also said that he knew that you have to cut it through the throat to let the blood drain out. This shows that he was scared and not just choosing a spot.
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Post by stewarts on Feb 1, 2015 11:46:10 GMT
Jack had the oppurtunity to kill the piglet, but let his chances slip away at the crucial moment when he had his blade raised. He claims he did this because he was trying to work out where to stab the pig, but Ralph and Simon come to the conclusion that the sight of blood from The pig would be unbearable for Jack. I believe this symolises that the innocense is still alive and active inside of Jack, and killing an animal proves to be too much for his conscience, for now.
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Post by mackenzieg on Feb 1, 2015 12:56:37 GMT
Why does Jack not kill the piglet, when he had the opportunity? Jack has the opportunity to kill a pig that has been trapped by the creepers and undergrowth so he unsheathes his blade and raises it ready to strike. ralph and simon wait for the blade to come down but jack pauses and the pig escapes. He says that he was choosing a place to strike and that he'll get it next time. Jack didn't stab it because he didn't want to cut into living flesh and that the blood would be unbearable. This shows that although he has a tough exterior and acts somewhat like a strong leader he is still just a boy.
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Post by remimckenzie on Feb 1, 2015 13:16:36 GMT
Why does Jack not kill the piglet, when he had the opportunity? Jack has a very 'tough, no nonsense' exterior, but despite this he's still only a little boy. He was probably afraid to kill a fellow living creature and couldn't bear to see the pig suffer. After he hesitated he acted like he was just waiting for the right time, so the other boys wouldn't think he was weak and an unworthy choir leader, especially scince the choir were voted the 'hunters.' Jack could not bear to kill the piglet because, as you said, he is only a little boy. You can tell from the way that he hesitated that he does not want to kill an innocent creature that he just trying to live, like the boys. I believe that not only Jack but Ralph and Simone did not want him to kill it also for the unbearable amount of blood that would have rushed out of the pigs neck had Jack cut the pig’s throat.
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Post by zoebia on Feb 1, 2015 13:55:53 GMT
Why does Jack not kill the piglet, when he had the opportunity? The piglet was trapped in the undergrowth. giving Jack the perfect opportunity to kill the pig providing all the boys something to eat. He hesitates giving the animal a chance to escape. Jack does the because he was scared of cutting into flesh. To continue appearing strong he tells the boys he was unsure where to cut the pigs, and tells them he will be able to do it next time.
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Post by elisegrant on Feb 1, 2015 20:35:52 GMT
Why does Jack not kill the piglet, when he had the opportunity? Jack has the opportunity to kill the piglet while it is trapped in the undergrowth however he is unable to. He says to the other boys, 'I was choosing a place' when the piglet escaped and ran away. Jack was scared and didn't want to cut into living flesh and the other boys knew the blood would be unbearable. Jack wants to appear as a tough and strong man when really he is still a boy. He assures himself that he will kill it next time and that there will be no mercy as though he is disappointed in himself for not being capable of killing and embarrassing himself in front of other people. I agree with Isabelle's comment. I think was unable to bring himself to kill the pig even though he says 'I was just choosing a place'. I think none of the boys were going to be able to kill the pig too because they all knew the blood that would pour out of it would be unbearable. After choosing not to kill the pig, Jack then feels like he has disappointed everyone and has shown a weakness to Ralph and Simon and maybe something that shows he cannot be a leader to the boys.
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