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Post by kate Fincham on Feb 22, 2015 12:21:42 GMT
Jack is undermining the authority of the conch by not holding it while he is speaking and not letting others who are holding it have their turn to speak. Jack saying "we know who ought to say things" suggests that he thinks he should be the one who has the biggest say, and boys such as Simon, Bill and Walters opinions and ideas did not matter. I think Jack also holds a certain hatred for the conch as it represents civilisation and order, which he detests. Also it allows people like Piggy to present reasonable ideas without being scared or bullied out of talking. |
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Post by allanaedgell on Feb 23, 2015 11:28:17 GMT
"We know who ought to say things here!" How is Jack undermining the authority of the conch? Jack is trying to say that it doesn't matter wether you have the conch or not, only important people should speak. This undermines the civilised aspect of the boys as in civilisation, you can talk and say your mind no matter who you are. Jack has no respect for the conch and what is represents to the boys. He doesn't like people who are holding the conch speak and he is speaking without the conch which goes against their original rules. |
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Post by allanaedgell on Feb 23, 2015 11:31:19 GMT
Jack is taking away the power of the conch by not following the rules of the conch. The conch is a symbol of civilisation and order and jack is trying to, not only, take away the power from the conch, but from everyone whom he deems "unworthy" I agree with you that he dismisses anyone who he deems "unworthy". I also think that he doesn't want to hear the opinions of the boys that he disregards as not important. |
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Post by mattsmart on Feb 26, 2015 11:48:23 GMT
When he wants to speak he does not hold the conch and also he does not let the other people hold the conch when they want to step forward and speak. He thinks that only his ideas should be put forawrd and doesnt want anyone to rebut his ideas
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