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Post by MsElliott on Feb 11, 2015 9:53:27 GMT
What is the “beast from air”? How is it appropriate that the boys mistake it for a beast — what connection does it have with the novel‟s themes, and what does it symbolize?
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Post by lindadate on Feb 12, 2015 4:58:11 GMT
The "beast from air" is the dead adult parachutist who drops onto the island after his plane is shot at, probably because of the war. Sam and Eric mistake the body as the beastie, which shows that humans are actually the monsters which they should be fearing, not an imaginary creature. While the boys on the island are almost on the verge of war, in the adult world there is also a war going on. The boys may be becoming savage, but is it any different from what the adults are doing to each other back in the 'civilized' world?
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Post by remimckenzie on Feb 16, 2015 6:25:18 GMT
The "beast from air" is the dead adult parachutist who drops onto the island after his plane is shot at, probably because of the war. Sam and Eric mistake the body as the beastie, which shows that humans are actually the monsters which they should be fearing, not an imaginary creature. While the boys on the island are almost on the verge of war, in the adult world there is also a war going on. The boys may be becoming savage, but is it any different from what the adults are doing to each other back in the 'civilized' world? I like the fact that you point out how there could really be a war going on back where they were. They could possibly even safer there, as there are no weapons of any sort to worry about such as guns or bombs. Although they are starting to become more savage as the novel progresses, therefore they might not have to worry about weapons per say, but more about the psychological stability of one another. |
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Post by zoewatson on Feb 16, 2015 7:22:48 GMT
What is the “beast from air”? How is it appropriate that the boys mistake it for a beast — what connection does it have with the novel‟s themes, and what does it symbolize? The beast from air is actually a dead adult parachutist. Sam and Eric see a shadow in the bushes, whilst they are on signal fire duty. They see the shadow and run to all the other boys to tell them what they have seen. They say they have seen the beastie whe really it's a human, this symblozises the fact that humans are the real beasts. This point is also brought up later in the book. It is suggested that fear is not real unless you are frightened by humans. This relates to the boys mistaking the oarachutist for a beast. (which is feared) |
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Post by zoewatson on Feb 16, 2015 7:47:57 GMT
The "beast from air" is the dead adult parachutist who drops onto the island after his plane is shot at, probably because of the war. Sam and Eric mistake the body as the beastie, which shows that humans are actually the monsters which they should be fearing, not an imaginary creature. While the boys on the island are almost on the verge of war, in the adult world there is also a war going on. The boys may be becoming savage, but is it any different from what the adults are doing to each other back in the 'civilized' world? It is a good point that the boys may not be the only uncivilised people. Maybe it's normal for a group to loose it's authority. Another point is that when Sam and Eric describe the bestie they over exaggerate but because none of the other boys witnessed this, they automatically that this is truthful. In reality Sam and Eric made up more of the story than they did tell the truth. |
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Post by coreym on Feb 17, 2015 5:04:25 GMT
The beast from air is a dead parachutist who fell from a plane at night. Ralph wanted a sign from other humans to come and save them, and now they finally got one. But the boys think the parachutist is a beastie and they are scared of it. This symbolises that the beast is really themsleves, because the 'beast' is also a human.
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Post by zoel on Feb 17, 2015 7:55:47 GMT
The "beast from air" is the dead adult parachutist who drops onto the island after his plane is shot at, probably because of the war. Sam and Eric mistake the body as the beastie, which shows that humans are actually the monsters which they should be fearing, not an imaginary creature. While the boys on the island are almost on the verge of war, in the adult world there is also a war going on. The boys may be becoming savage, but is it any different from what the adults are doing to each other back in the 'civilized' world? I like the fact that you point out how there could really be a war going on back where they were. They could possibly even safer there, as there are no weapons of any sort to worry about such as guns or bombs. Although they are starting to become more savage as the novel progresses, therefore they might not have to worry about weapons per say, but more about the psychological stability of one another. I feel that also the title "beast from air" is a good follow on from the previous chapter title "beast from water" because it is showing the beast is evolving as the boys' fear grows. |
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Post by emilyhadzalic on Feb 17, 2015 9:57:58 GMT
What is the “beast from air”? How is it appropriate that the boys mistake it for a beast — what connection does it have with the novel‟s themes, and what does it symbolize? I think that the actual "beastie" that's on the island are the humans, so it's appropriate that a grown up human to be mistaken as a beast because he's like an older, stronger version of the boys on the island and was just fighting in a war and trying to kill other humans before he died. All of the boys become of afraid of the beast on top of the mountain, which connects to the novel's themes of that there's only something to fear on the island if the boys start fearing people. The parachute soldier could symbolise that humans have the potential to be the scariest beasts, even though they have no claws or wings or teeth. |
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Post by coreym on Feb 17, 2015 10:36:21 GMT
The "beast from air" is the dead adult parachutist who drops onto the island after his plane is shot at, probably because of the war. Sam and Eric mistake the body as the beastie, which shows that humans are actually the monsters which they should be fearing, not an imaginary creature. While the boys on the island are almost on the verge of war, in the adult world there is also a war going on. The boys may be becoming savage, but is it any different from what the adults are doing to each other back in the 'civilized' world? I had not even thought about how there was a war going on outside. That is also a very good point about how they maybe aren't doing anything other than adults in the outside world. |
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Post by Yor a wizard Harry!! (Ashton) on Feb 17, 2015 22:31:03 GMT
What is the “beast from air”? How is it appropriate that the boys mistake it for a beast — what connection does it have with the novel‟s themes, and what does it symbolize? The beast from the air is silent upon arrival. None of the boys know that the beast "dead parachutist" falls upon them in the dead of night. This signifys the world outside, and while the boys are all fighting like children- so are the adults in the outside world. A war is happening. Are the boys acting the same way their counterparts are in the outside supposedly more civilized world. The gift from the adult has arrived, almost as soon as it is summoned. |
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Post by lilyklunyk on Feb 17, 2015 22:35:47 GMT
What is the “beast from air”? How is it appropriate that the boys mistake it for a beast — what connection does it have with the novel‟s themes, and what does it symbolize? The beast from air is actually a dead adult parachutist. Sam and Eric see a shadow in the bushes, whilst they are on signal fire duty. They see the shadow and run to all the other boys to tell them what they have seen. They say they have seen the beastie whe really it's a human, this symblozises the fact that humans are the real beasts. This point is also brought up later in the book. It is suggested that fear is not real unless you are frightened by humans. This relates to the boys mistaking the oarachutist for a beast. (which is feared) I agree that the humans are the real beasts. The boys are so driven by the fear of the beast that when Sam and Eric saw the dead parachutist, they automatically thought that it was the beast because they had never seen it before. The boys fear the beast, when the real beast is themselves. |
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Post by Hope15 on Feb 18, 2015 5:07:16 GMT
What is the “beast from air”? How is it appropriate that the boys mistake it for a beast — what connection does it have with the novel‟s themes, and what does it symbolize? The beast from the air is silent apon arrival. None of the boys know that the beast "dead parachutist" falls upon them in the dead of night. This signifys the world outside, and while the boys are all fighting like children- so are the adults in the outside world. A war is happening. Are the boys acting the sAmerican way their counterparts are in the outside supposedly mor civilized world. The gift from the adult has arrived, almost as soon as it is summoned. I like how you suggested that conflicts may be happening outside of the island and in the world outside. Perhaps a war or some sort of battle was the reason the boys were stranded on this island? The 'gift' from the adults could be a symbol of what civilisation has become. |
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Post by elisegrant on Feb 18, 2015 5:39:36 GMT
The beast from the air is silent apon arrival. None of the boys know that the beast "dead parachutist" falls upon them in the dead of night. This signifys the world outside, and while the boys are all fighting like children- so are the adults in the outside world. A war is happening. Are the boys acting the sAmerican way their counterparts are in the outside supposedly mor civilized world. The gift from the adult has arrived, almost as soon as it is summoned. I like how you suggested that conflicts may be happening outside of the island and in the world outside. Perhaps a war or some sort of battle was the reason the boys were stranded on this island? The 'gift' from the adults could be a symbol of what civilisation has become. I wondered if the boys were on the island because there was a war happening and thats why they are stranded on the island. Maybe their plane was targeted due to the war and thats why is crashed. |
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Post by elisegrant on Feb 18, 2015 5:47:19 GMT
The "beast of the air" comes flying down through the air and it is discovered that it is a dead parachutist. Sam and Eric notice the "beast" first and run and wake up all the other boys to tell them about it and when they do, they make it out to have claws, wing and huge teeth making all the boys fear it. All throughout the book, the boys are deciding what the beast is. Whether it is and animal or monster but this shows that maybe the beast is actually humans. This is not the only time this idea of the beats being humans is mentioned. Another reason why the beast could be human is because on of the boys say fear isn't really unless you are frightened of humans.
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Post by Yor a wizard Harry!! (Ashton) on Feb 18, 2015 6:48:09 GMT
The "beast of the air" comes flying down through the air and it is discovered that it is a dead parachutist. Sam and Eric notice the "beast" first and run and wake up all the other boys to tell them about it and when they do, they make it out to have claws, wing and huge teeth making all the boys fear it. All throughout the book, the boys are deciding what the beast is. Whether it is and animal or monster but this shows that maybe the beast is actually humans. This is not the only time this idea of the beats being humans is mentioned. Another reason why the beast could be human is because on of the boys say fear isn't really unless you are frightened of humans. I agree Elise, without humans there would be no fear. There would be no thought in their minds of a beast. |
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