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Post by MsElliott on Feb 18, 2015 9:07:44 GMT
Why have Ralph's followers deserted him?
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Post by zoel on Feb 18, 2015 10:05:28 GMT
Ralph has been deserted because the other boys followed their desire for meat and bloodlust to Jacks tribe. Ralph's ration and leadership were not enough to keep the boys on his side.
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Post by isabelleewert on Feb 19, 2015 6:59:39 GMT
Why have Ralph's followers deserted him? Ralph's followers are no longer siding with him and are instead on the side of Jack. I think that once the situation became more dire and it seemed as though the 'civilisation' was going to completely fall apart, the boys sided with Jack as he seemed like a strong character who definitely asserted that he was brave and could do anything. The boys probably felt safer with Jack as he is confident he can kill the beast. The temptation of meat and hunting could have also added to the compulsion the boys felt to join Jack and we notice that all of the boys who did join the tribe had been losing the desire to be rescued anyway. |
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Post by Hope15 on Feb 19, 2015 8:34:45 GMT
Ralph has been deserted because the other boys followed their desire for meat and bloodlust to Jacks tribe. Ralph's ration and leadership were not enough to keep the boys on his side. The boys probably also felt like they should go with Jack as he could protect them against the beast. Their bloodlust and desire for meat was as a big factor in leaving Ralph as you mentioned. |
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Post by coreym on Feb 19, 2015 8:39:11 GMT
Ralph has been deserted becuase the other boys wanted meat and wanted to kill, which is what happens in Jack's tribe. Ralph was not fun enough to keep the boys on his side. Also the boys may have felt that Jack protected them from the beast.
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Post by zoewatson on Feb 19, 2015 9:50:10 GMT
Why have Ralph's followers deserted him? Ralph has been deserted from his followers. They have left him to be with Jacks "funner" tribe. If the boys went to Jacks tribe they would be protested from the beast and they would have fun on the island and not be worried about being rescued. The other boys would aslo be able to hunt when apart of Jacks tribe. |
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Post by emah on Feb 19, 2015 11:49:56 GMT
Ralph has been deserted becuase the other boys wanted meat and wanted to kill, which is what happens in Jack's tribe. Ralph was not fun enough to keep the boys on his side. Also the boys may have felt that Jack protected them from the beast. The boys have become used to the island and probably do not think it is that bad apart from the Beast. So the idea of hunting and doing more exciting things rather than work for rescue was appealing to the boys. Although they have followed Ralph, Jack has spoken very strongly and persuasively to gain followers. Which leaves Ralph with only a few members in his group. |
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Post by lindadate on Feb 21, 2015 23:53:20 GMT
Ralph's followers have deserted him because Jack's tribe have meat and Jack allows the boys freedom from rules such as keeping the signal fire going and using only a certain area for the toilet. Jack has become a stronger character than Ralph, as he is sure in his beliefs and he has more of an air of command, and the boys see him as a better leader than Ralph in the difficult circumstances that they face.
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Post by zoebia on Feb 22, 2015 5:41:25 GMT
Why have Ralph's followers deserted him? I feel the boys left Ralph because they didn't think he's leadership was good enough, and they wanted to follow the hunting and more savage side of themselves, this is jacks influence |
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Post by elisegrant on Feb 22, 2015 10:02:47 GMT
Ralph has been deserted becuase the other boys wanted meat and wanted to kill, which is what happens in Jack's tribe. Ralph was not fun enough to keep the boys on his side. Also the boys may have felt that Jack protected them from the beast. Jack offers them something that Ralph can't or hasn't. Jack says the to the boys that if they wanted to have fun, they should come with him. Ralph is more serious because he just wants to build a fire so they can have a chance of being rescued. |
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Post by stewarts on Feb 22, 2015 10:30:57 GMT
Ralph has been deserted because the other boys followed their desire for meat and bloodlust to Jacks tribe. Ralph's ration and leadership were not enough to keep the boys on his side. The boy's survival instincts are kicking in, and they know they will not go anywhere in Ralph's tribe. Joining Jack meant an much better rate of survival and being part of the doninant group. |
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Post by kate Fincham on Feb 22, 2015 12:59:23 GMT
Why have Ralph's followers deserted him? Most of Ralph's followers deserted him because the allure of fresh meat, hunting, freedom and fun with Jack was simply too strong for Ralph's peaceful, harmonious civilisation. Also there would've been a fair amount of peer pressure, as one boy left another would join him. |
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Post by kate Fincham on Feb 22, 2015 13:03:07 GMT
Ralph's followers have deserted him because Jack's tribe have meat and Jack allows the boys freedom from rules such as keeping the signal fire going and using only a certain area for the toilet. Jack has become a stronger character than Ralph, as he is sure in his beliefs and he has more of an air of command, and the boys see him as a better leader than Ralph in the difficult circumstances that they face. I'm actually very surprised that more of the littluns didn't join Jack's group, as the allure of no rules and freedom would've tempted them. But then again, Ralph is almost like an adult figure to them and I suppose they still had some respect for grown ups. |
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Post by allanaedgell on Feb 23, 2015 10:12:19 GMT
Why have Ralph's followers deserted him? Ralph has been deserted by the majority of the boys because they feel safer with Jack. Jack provides protection from the "beast" and he also has meat, unlike Ralph does. Although Ralph represents a more civilised group, the boys belive they will have more fun being in Jack's tribe. |
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Post by allanaedgell on Feb 23, 2015 10:13:54 GMT
Why have Ralph's followers deserted him? Most of Ralph's followers deserted him because the allure of fresh meat, hunting, freedom and fun with Jack was simply too strong for Ralph's peaceful, harmonious civilisation. Also there would've been a fair amount of peer pressure, as one boy left another would join him. I agree with you about the peer pressure aspect. I'm surprised that more of the littuns didn't go with Jack as they are most susceptible to peer pressure. |
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