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Post by MsElliott on Feb 11, 2015 9:49:43 GMT
Jack's reaction to Ralph reminding him about the rules is very significant. Why?
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Post by isabelleewert on Feb 14, 2015 7:28:20 GMT
Jack's reaction to Ralph reminding him about the rules is very significant. Why? When Ralph reminds Jack that he is breaking the rules and that the rules are the only thing they have, Jack says "Bullocks to the rules! We're strong-we hunt! If there's a beast, we'll hunt it down! We'll close in and beat and beat and beat-" This is significant because only just before this assembly had Jack abandoned his job of making sure the fire remained burning to go and hunt down a pig. When the boys met on the mountain Jack said he was sorry for letting the fire out and although he didn't seem very sincere, he organised the fire to be lit again. Jack basically restates his power by saying that they will beat the beast, if there was one, just like they did to the pig. This act of rebelling against the rules is a trait that we have seen in Jack for some time and it is now coming to light that he really has no intention to be rescued from the island at all.
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Post by zoel on Feb 14, 2015 22:30:59 GMT
When jack is told that he needs to follow the rules he just yells that he doesn't need rules. Ralph argues that the rules is the only thing they have, but jack is convinced that he doesn't need rules. This shows that jack is willing to descend into anarchy and it is almost as though he wants to. He would much rather stay on the island and hunt than go back to his old life in England.
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Post by emah on Feb 15, 2015 3:53:04 GMT
Jack's reaction to Ralph reminding him about the rules is very significant. Why? Jack's reaction to the rules confirms just how much he disapproves of them. He goes out of control when arguing his views about the whole topic and his primitive feelings show. He doesn't like Ralph's guidance as chief and thinks the chief should be doing much more. Being a hunter, Jack thinks he deserves the role. He also despises people who help or favour anyone he doesn't like. He remarks "bullocks to the rules" and clearly shows that he isn't a believer of order and equality amongst everyone. He is becoming much more eager to stay and live like a savage instead of being rescued.
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Post by Hope15 on Feb 15, 2015 4:51:15 GMT
Jack's reaction to Ralph reminding him about the rules is very significant. Why? Jack's reaction to the rules confirms just how much he disapproves of them. He goes out of control when arguing his views about the whole topic and his primitive feelings show. He doesn't like Ralph's guidance as chief and thinks the chief should be doing much more. Being a hunter, Jack thinks he deserves the role. He also despises people who help or favour anyone he doesn't like. He remarks "bullocks to the rules" and clearly shows that he isn't a believer of order and equality amongst everyone. He is becoming much more eager to stay and live like a savage instead of being rescued. This is also really significant because back a few chapters Jack said that the boys needed rules. Now he wants to abandon them completely which shows he is savage and primitive deep down, not civilised as he once was.
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Post by zoewatson on Feb 15, 2015 6:12:53 GMT
Jack's reaction to Ralph reminding him about the rules is very significant. Why? Jack's reaction to the rules confirms just how much he disapproves of them. He goes out of control when arguing his views about the whole topic and his primitive feelings show. He doesn't like Ralph's guidance as chief and thinks the chief should be doing much more. Being a hunter, Jack thinks he deserves the role. He also despises people who help or favour anyone he doesn't like. He remarks "bullocks to the rules" and clearly shows that he isn't a believer of order and equality amongst everyone. He is becoming much more eager to stay and live like a savage instead of being rescued. Earlier on in the book Jack wanted the rules, because it suited him. Now that the rules are holding him back, he doesn't want them. Jack is only caring about himself and turning the little civilisation they have into savagery.
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Post by jemimareid on Feb 15, 2015 10:26:48 GMT
Jack's reaction to Ralph reminding him about the rules is very significant. Why? Jack's reaction to the rules confirms just how much he disapproves of them. He goes out of control when arguing his views about the whole topic and his primitive feelings show. He doesn't like Ralph's guidance as chief and thinks the chief should be doing much more. Being a hunter, Jack thinks he deserves the role. He also despises people who help or favour anyone he doesn't like. He remarks "bullocks to the rules" and clearly shows that he isn't a believer of order and equality amongst everyone. He is becoming much more eager to stay and live like a savage instead of being rescued. I think that this is also a way of him trying so say "I should be leader, these rules don't work".
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Post by elisegrant on Feb 15, 2015 10:52:15 GMT
Jack's reaction to Ralph reminding him about the rules is significant because it shows how much he doesn't like Ralph being the leader of the boys. He doesn't want anyone to be in roll unless its him because he believes he deserves the right to the position. Jack is starting to become less civilised because he doesn't want to have any rules saying "Bullocks to the rules". He would prefer to be hunting all day, everyday.
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Post by laurah on Feb 15, 2015 11:19:32 GMT
Jack's reaction to Ralph reminding him about the rules is very significant. Why? Jack's reaction to the rules confirms just how much he disapproves of them. He goes out of control when arguing his views about the whole topic and his primitive feelings show. He doesn't like Ralph's guidance as chief and thinks the chief should be doing much more. Being a hunter, Jack thinks he deserves the role. He also despises people who help or favour anyone he doesn't like. He remarks "bullocks to the rules" and clearly shows that he isn't a believer of order and equality amongst everyone. He is becoming much more eager to stay and live like a savage instead of being rescued. Normally when Ralph shouts Jack down, he doesn't get back up again and agrees with him. But this time Jack yells, “Bollocks to the rules!" Jack believes that they do not need rules if they can hunt down and kill the beast, which is unlike the Jack we saw at the beginning of the book, who said, “I agree with Ralph. We’ve got to have rules and obey them. After all, we’re not savages."
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Post by remimckenzie on Feb 16, 2015 5:57:06 GMT
When jack is told that he needs to follow the rules he just yells that he doesn't need rules. Ralph argues that the rules is the only thing they have, but jack is convinced that he doesn't need rules. This shows that jack is willing to descend into anarchy and it is almost as though he wants to. He would much rather stay on the island and hunt than go back to his old life in England. I believe Jack has been just about pushed to the brim as Ralph is always the one giving orders, and Jacks wants to be the chief. I think the Jack will act out even more as the story progresses and do something very silly.
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Post by emilyhadzalic on Feb 17, 2015 9:37:02 GMT
Jack's reaction to Ralph reminding him about the rules is very significant. Why? When Ralph reminds Jack that he is breaking the rules and that the rules are the only thing they have, Jack says "Bullocks to the rules! We're strong-we hunt! If there's a beast, we'll hunt it down! We'll close in and beat and beat and beat-" This is significant because only just before this assembly had Jack abandoned his job of making sure the fire remained burning to go and hunt down a pig. When the boys met on the mountain Jack said he was sorry for letting the fire out and although he didn't seem very sincere, he organised the fire to be lit again. Jack basically restates his power by saying that they will beat the beast, if there was one, just like they did to the pig. This act of rebelling against the rules is a trait that we have seen in Jack for some time and it is now coming to light that he really has no intention to be rescued from the island at all. I agree that Jack doesn't want to be rescued from the island at all. His rebellion against Ralph's rules and lack of sincerity when apologising about the fire could also show that he's selfish and only cares about the rules if they will benefit him and doesn't care about order or the fate of the other boys.
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Post by coreym on Feb 17, 2015 9:53:09 GMT
Jack's reaction to Ralph reminding him about the rules is significant because it shows how much he doesn't like Ralph being the leader of the boys. He doesn't want anyone to be in roll unless its him because he believes he deserves the right to the position. Jack is starting to become less civilised because he doesn't want to have any rules saying "Bullocks to the rules". He would prefer to be hunting all day, everyday. It is also interesting becuase in the first chapter Jack said "It is important we have rules, we aren't savages for after all!" When that is exactly what they are turning into.
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Post by kate Fincham on Feb 17, 2015 22:28:13 GMT
Jack's reaction to Ralph reminding him about the rules is very significant. Why? When Ralph reminds him of the rules Jack shouts "Bollocks to the rules!" This is significant because the reader starts to realise that maybe Jack doesn't want to be rescued after all. He seems to be very at home on the island hunting and probably doesn't want to go back to civilisation.
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Post by zoebia on Feb 18, 2015 9:22:31 GMT
Jack's reaction to Ralph reminding him about the rules is very significant. Why? I think this is significant because it's what first presents to us that jack doesn't want to leave the Island. He likes the way he is living and with the rules they have some sort of civilisation that Jack does not agree with.
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Post by mackenzieg on Feb 18, 2015 10:57:04 GMT
Jack's reaction to Ralph reminding him about the rules is very significant. Why? I think this is significant because it's what first presents to us that jack doesn't want to leave the Island. He likes the way he is living and with the rules they have some sort of civilisation that Jack does not agree with. I feel that his is true in the sense that jack feels very at home on the island because there are next to none rules and it's a place where he isn't held back by school rules or parents and is a place where he can truly be himself.
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